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Old 06-17-2005, 01:48 AM
stu55 stu55 is offline
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Default Save my poker life and hurry!

Ok, well, I am in a bit of a rout here. Started with $80 and was going to grind for a bit to start hitting up the 11s and 22s and play poker for the summer, hoping to make some money. I am also a pretty tight player and dont take too many risks. But it seems like I am about to go broke, and that is bad.

I have $12 left on my account and $12 in rake back to get, but for some reason I can't place in the money and it has killed whatever small amount of bankroll I had. Of the 58 tables I have hit up I have moneied in 16 of them. It seems no matter what I do, ppl will draw out on me, no matter how I push or bet. My AA got cracked today by 28s, and no matter how many times I want them to call, it just seems I am on the short end...

Is there anything I can do, I have 4 tables worth at the 6s then I am done, I really need the help and any advice would be good.
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Old 06-17-2005, 01:52 AM
Myst Myst is offline
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Default Re: Save my poker life and hurry!

If you want to treat this game seriously, you gotta either play with more money, or move down in limits.
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Old 06-17-2005, 01:55 AM
Freudian Freudian is offline
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I don't know what advice you can get that will make your hands hold up for the next four SnGs.

Hope you win your coinflips.
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Old 06-17-2005, 01:55 AM
lastchance lastchance is offline
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List of concepts you need to understand to beat the $11's for a moderate ROI:
L1-L3:
Playing pairs for Set Value
Playing TPTK + Overpairs for profit
Check-raising
Slowplaying (when to do it)
Positional concerns preflop (insanely important)
Never laydown QQ
L4-ITM:
Blind Stealing:
Position
# of active players left
How good your hand actually is (88 = AK or K9s)
10x BB rule: when you have 10x BB or less, push all-in
ICM
Stack Size
Raising vs Calling
Luckboxing (sucking out on others)
Range of opponent's hands (very, very important)
Opponent's stack sizes (unimportant compared to the others because of opponent's play) (understand the last sentence, and you'll beat the bubble)
Stabbing the flop vs Pushing preflop
Limping
ITM-HU:
Aggressiveness
Playing opponents (always important, but essential here)
Position (this is really, really important HU)

General SNG concepts:
Variance

Remember, don't focus on your suckouts. Focus on getting blinded down to nil or doing stupid things with decent stacks that allowed you to lose.

Is being called by a loose big stack with A8s good on the bubble?
Is it ok to limp KJs UTG in L1? Ok in CO in front of limpers in L1?
Do you laydown AA to a board with a three-flush?
Do you open-fold any hand in the SB Heads-Up?
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Old 06-17-2005, 06:25 AM
Angelic_Ace Angelic_Ace is offline
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Default Re: Save my poker life and hurry!

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List of concepts you need to understand to beat the $11's for a moderate ROI:

10x BB rule: when you have 10x BB or less, push all-in
ICM

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I don't think the 10BB thing is in any sense a RULE. So with 100/200 blinds, and with 1900 chips, you're going to push all in any time you play a hand? This is certainly not necessary at 11$ games. You also can be quite profitable not even knowing about ICM, and you definitely won't need it to soundly beat the 11 and 22 tournies.
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Old 06-17-2005, 06:46 AM
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Default Re: Save my poker life and hurry!

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List of concepts you need to understand to beat the $11's for a moderate ROI:

10x BB rule: when you have 10x BB or less, push all-in
ICM

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I don't think the 10BB thing is in any sense a RULE. So with 100/200 blinds, and with 1900 chips, you're going to push all in any time you play a hand?

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YES!


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This is certainly not necessary at 11$ games.



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Maybee you can be profitable without pushing, but i think it will be much more profitable if you learn to push.( i don't have that much experience with the 10's, but a lot with the 20's.)


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You also can be quite profitable not even knowing about ICM, and you definitely won't need it to soundly beat the 11 and 22 tournies.

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Yes, but you still need a decent understanding of what hands are worth calling on the buble.
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Old 06-17-2005, 06:51 AM
Angelic_Ace Angelic_Ace is offline
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Default Re: Save my poker life and hurry!

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
List of concepts you need to understand to beat the $11's for a moderate ROI:

10x BB rule: when you have 10x BB or less, push all-in
ICM

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't think the 10BB thing is in any sense a RULE. So with 100/200 blinds, and with 1900 chips, you're going to push all in any time you play a hand?

[/ QUOTE ]

YES!


[ QUOTE ]
This is certainly not necessary at 11$ games.



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Maybee you can be profitable without pushing, but i think it will be much more profitable if you learn to push.( i don't have that much experience with the 10's, but a lot with the 20's.)


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You also can be quite profitable not even knowing about ICM, and you definitely won't need it to soundly beat the 11 and 22 tournies.

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Yes, but you still need a decent understanding of what hands are worth calling on the buble.

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I don't follow the 10x BB 'rule' and I have a 32% ROI over 650 11$ tournies on party poker. I think it is much more applicable at 50-200 buyin where you run the risk of being reraised with any 2 or outplayed postflop. People will fold their blinds to minraises at the 11s.
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Old 06-17-2005, 02:18 AM
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Looks like you'll be mowing lawns again this summer.
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Old 06-17-2005, 02:25 AM
ZebraAss ZebraAss is offline
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Good Luck bro...
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Old 06-17-2005, 05:50 AM
Jonathan Jonathan is offline
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Looks like you'll be mowing lawns again this summer.

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And there is absoulutely nothing wrong with that!
Much more healthy for you physically and emotionally
that sitting in front of a computer screen all day!

Suerte,
Jonathan
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