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Old 09-07-2005, 11:28 PM
gorie gorie is offline
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Default jobs are important ?

i know it sounds like a stupid question, but how do you convince someone that having a job is important ?

this person is 28 years old, in debt 25,000 does not have a college degree (some school but never finished, which is where a lot of the debt came from) and is stuck on the reasoning that having a job and money does not equal happiness and how it's pointless to get a crappy job working for $7 doing something they hate because they'll never get out of debt anyway. ? they think they've ruined the rest of their life because they'll never be able to have the things they wanted in life like a house etc so why bother ?

right now they live with someone that supports them but the person supporting them doesn't like this, and doesn't treat them very well because of it.

i should also mention they have been really unlucky with jobs in the past. and have done the whole temp agency thing and usually get let go too soon when they do find something they can do, or quit because they can't stand the job. so their job history does not look too good. they get turned down a lot for jobs when they do send resumes and i think they've given up.

don't post if you're just going to say mean stuff. i would like some advice on how you'd handle this if it was someone you cared about ?
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Old 09-07-2005, 11:33 PM
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know it sounds like a stupid question, but how do you convince someone that having a job is important ?


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You are asking this question on a forum where 25% of the people are currently unemployed and the other 75% wish they were?

You gotta be kidding!!
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Old 09-07-2005, 11:36 PM
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know it sounds like a stupid question, but how do you convince someone that having a job is important ?


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You are asking this question on a forum where 25% of the people are currently unemployed and the other 75% wish they were?

You gotta be kidding!!

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but they still all want to be making money... that's different.

why did you bother to respond just to say that ?
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Old 09-07-2005, 11:39 PM
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why did you bother to respond just to say that ?

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Because you asked for no mean responses and my only other reasonable choice was to suggest you mind you own business and allow her to live her life the way she chooses.
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Old 09-07-2005, 11:47 PM
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why did you bother to respond just to say that ?

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Because you asked for no mean responses and my only other reasonable choice was to suggest you mind you own business and allow her to live her life the way she chooses.

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you're assuming it is none of my business.
thanks anyway.
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Old 09-07-2005, 11:56 PM
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you're assuming it is none of my business.


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There are really only three circumstances under which it would be any of your business:

1) If the person in question is really you
2) If the person in question owes you the 25 grand
3) If you are the person abusing the 28 year old bum

How you could believe otherwise is unreasonable and is only being nosey.
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Old 09-07-2005, 11:33 PM
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Does this person rely on the person they live with for everything? I think it feels good to be able to provide things for oneself. I don't like my job but it gives me somewhere to go during the day, I'd get really bored. I get bored if I stay home for more than one day in a row.
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Old 09-07-2005, 11:45 PM
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Does this person rely on the person they live with for everything? I think it feels good to be able to provide things for oneself. I don't like my job but it gives me somewhere to go during the day, I'd get really bored. I get bored if I stay home for more than one day in a row.

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yes they are dependent on them pretty much.

they say they are trying, and i know it is hard to find jobs , but it just seems like they're stuck on the idea that it's pointless and that bothers me.
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Old 09-07-2005, 11:51 PM
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what kinds of things do they like?
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Old 09-07-2005, 11:53 PM
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what kinds of things do they like?

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they say they want to help people.
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