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09-12-2005, 11:25 PM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] sigh...and we have the bosox version of dead in our midst [/ QUOTE ] There is no way Toro is as bad as Dead (or is even bad at all; though I don't agree with most of what he says). Dead was a horrible troll. Toro is nothing like that. craig p.s. Possibly biased because I am a BOS fan. [/ QUOTE ] dead agreed with some statistic metrics, though. [/ QUOTE ] Right, but Toro just likes the game of baseball. He doesn't think stats are as important as a lot of people on here. Oh well. But, he doesn't make posts just to piss people off like Dead. Anyways, I am done defending him. I don't have time for another "man crush" (as Toro would say). craig 
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09-12-2005, 11:38 PM
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[ QUOTE ] Arod = MVP [/ QUOTE ] he's not gonna win it though if NYY doesn't make the playoffs. [/ QUOTE ] Haven't you heard the news? According to conventional wisdom in this forum, that shouldn't matter.
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09-12-2005, 11:39 PM
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sigh...and we have the bosox version of dead in our midst [/ QUOTE ]few people have been more wrong than you.
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09-12-2005, 11:41 PM
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He's done it again folks!! [/ QUOTE ]I love your hyperbole [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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09-12-2005, 11:41 PM
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Re: BIG PAPI = M V P
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Arod = MVP [/ QUOTE ] he's not gonna win it though if NYY doesn't make the playoffs. [/ QUOTE ] Haven't you heard the news? According to conventional wisdom in this forum, that shouldn't matter. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think you'll find support for that statement in Doug.
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09-13-2005, 12:03 AM
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A-Rod's too far ahead of anyone else for it to make a difference. The sad thing is Ortiz may actually win it, if the Yanks don't make the playoffs.
There have to be a dozen players with better "stats" than him. How much do you think his "clutch performance" is worth? Even if you don't believe in clutch hitters, that doesn't mean clutch performances aren't valuable. I have no clue how good Ortiz has been in the clutch. Anyone have a win expectation added stat out there for hitters?
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#20
09-13-2005, 12:14 AM
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A-Rod's too far ahead of anyone else for it to make a difference. The sad thing is Ortiz may actually win it, if the Yanks don't make the playoffs. There have to be a dozen players with better "stats" than him. How much do you think his "clutch performance" is worth? Even if you don't believe in clutch hitters, that doesn't mean clutch performances aren't valuable. I have no clue how good Ortiz has been in the clutch. Anyone have a win expectation added stat out there for hitters? [/ QUOTE ] what about: Clutch "Clutch" is the name we've given to the portion of Bill James's Runs Created formula that includes the impact of a batter's batting average with runners in scoring position and the number of home runs with runners on. The specific formula is Hits with RISP minus overall BA times at bats with RISP, plus HR with runners on minus (all HR/AB) times at bats with runners on. This stat is not a definitive description of "clutch hitting," just one way of looking at it. from hardballtimes?
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