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Old 11-26-2005, 06:09 PM
bdohaney bdohaney is offline
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Default How do you convince idiots their blind structure is retarded?

Lately, I have been going around and playing some other people's games around where I live. Now, these are your "I learned everything I know about poker from watching the WSOP" crowd. How do I tell them that starting with ~2500 (they like to have LOTS of chips, and play with stupid mid-denoms like 50 chips) and blinds starting at 25-50 and doubling every 20 minutes is a bad idea. Am I a dick for thinking that having to wager half of your starting stack every round less than 2 hours in is close to the dumbest thing ever? My thoughts are that I should probably just stop playing any of these games, as it just becomes one big crapshoot. If I do keep playing them, is there any way to actually beat them?
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Old 11-26-2005, 06:15 PM
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Default Re: How do you convince idiots their blind structure is retarded?

this is very close to how my friends and I play used to play -

Though DOUBLING is too much the game is beatable - you just have to adjust.
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Old 11-26-2005, 06:28 PM
Skipbidder Skipbidder is offline
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Default Re: How do you convince idiots their blind structure is retarded?

No, you can't win.
Home-game-rapidly-increasing-blind-poker-with-donks is RIGGED!
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Old 11-26-2005, 07:06 PM
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Default Re: How do you convince idiots their blind structure is retarded?

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No, you can't win.
Home-game-rapidly-increasing-blind-poker-with-donks is RIGGED!

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I think the point to be made here is that you just gotta get the donks pegged, know when your ahead, focus more on tells, rather than playing ABC.
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Old 11-26-2005, 09:43 PM
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Default Re: How do you convince idiots their blind structure is retarded?

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this is very close to how my friends and I play used to play -

Though DOUBLING is too much the game is beatable - you just have to adjust.

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I use the Foxwoods structure with 2000 chips to start. It works great.

Scotty O
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Old 11-26-2005, 10:05 PM
bdohaney bdohaney is offline
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Default Re: How do you convince idiots their blind structure is retarded?

Yeah, that is fairly similar to what I go with. I am changing to T1200 (8 X 25, 5 X 100, 1 X 500) and blinds of 25-50, 50-100, 75-150, 100-200, 150-300, 200-400, 300-600, 400-800, 500-1K, 600-1.2k, 700-1.4k, 1k-2k and SB going up 1K each after, each level 20 min) The one I played in tonight that pissed me off so bad was 25-50, 50-100, 100-200, 200-400, 400-800, 800-1600, etc. I doubt that I will get too many of these fanbois to my game, as they don't like it when the game is actually requiring more skill to win than pure luck. Hopefully I will eventually be able to get a core group of players who know how poker is actually supposed to be played.
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Old 11-26-2005, 10:46 PM
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Default Re: How do you convince idiots their blind structure is retarded?

thats still not a great structure, t1200 is nothing with 25-50 blinds

give 2500 and start at 25-25
or 1500 at 5-10
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Old 11-27-2005, 12:23 AM
John Bedtelyon John Bedtelyon is offline
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Default Re: How do you convince idiots their blind structure is retarded?

Yeah, your new blind structure is way worse that the original one. How do you think it will help? You think wagering half your stack after 2 hours is bad? What about wagerings your entire stack after...well, without getting any good cards, about 30 minutes into the match you're already all in. Your new structure you'd be lucky if the whole thing lasted 2 hours, depending on players it'd probably last an hour and a half.

JMB
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Old 11-27-2005, 01:05 AM
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Try this structure:
No Limit Structure & Ante
Level Small Blind Big Blind Ante
1 5 10
2 10 20
3 15 30
4 20 40
5 30 60
6 50 100
7 75 150
8 100 200
9 150 300
10 150 300 25
11 200 400 50
12 300 600 75
13 400 800 100
14 600 1,200 125
15 800 1,600 150
16 1,000 2,000 200
17 1,500 3,000 300
18 2,000 4,000 400
19 3,000 6,000 600
20 4,000 8,000 800
21 6,000 12,000 1,200
22 8,000 16,000 1,600
23 10,000 20,000 2,000
24 15,000 30,000 3,000
25 20,000 40,000 4,000
26 30,000 60,000 6,000
27 40,000 80,000 8,000
28 60,000 120,000 12,000
29 80,000 160,000 15,000
30 100,000 200,000 20,000
31 150,000 300,000 30,000

Increasing every 15 or 20 minutes. You can use the same structure without the antes. Start with T1,500.
Or, if they want to use a lot of chips, use the WSOP starting structure:

LEVEL ANTE BLINDS
1ST $25-$50
2ND $50-$100
3RD $100-$200
4TH $25 $100-$200
5TH $50 $150-$300
6th $50 $200-$400
7th $50 $250-$500
8th $75 $300-$600
REMOVE $25 CHIPS
9th $100 $400-$800
10th $100 $500-$1,000
11th $200 $600-$1,200
12th $200 $800-$1,600
13th $300 $1,000-$2,000
14th $400 $1,200-$2,400
REMOVE $100 CHIPS
15th $500 $1,500-$3,000
16th $500 $2,000-$4,000
17th $500 $2,500-$5,000
REMOVE $500 CHIPS
18th $1,000 $3,000-$6,000
19th $1,000 $4,000-$8,000
20th $1,000 $5,000-$10,000
21st $2,000 $6,000-$12,000
22nd $2,000 $8,000-$16,000
23rd $3,000 $10,000-$20,000
24th $4,000 $12,000-$24,000
REMOVE $1,000 CHIPS
25th $5,000 $15,000-$30,000
26th $5,000 $20,000-$40,000
27th $5,000 $25,000-$50,000
REMOVE $5,000 CHIPS
28th $10,000 $30,000-$60,000
29th $10,000 $40,000-$80,000
30th $10,000 $50,000-$100,000
31st $20,000 $60,000-$120,000
32nd $20,000 $80,000-$160,000
33rd $30,000 $100,000-$200,000
Start with T10,000.

Edit...sorry, the tables didn't come out very well, but I think you can figure it out. On the first table, the antes, when they kick in, are the far right column. On the second table, the antes, when they kick in, are in the first column.
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Old 11-27-2005, 01:42 AM
Scotty O Scotty O is offline
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Default Re: How do you convince idiots their blind structure is retarded?

You could have just posted a link... maybe for next time

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