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Old 12-14-2005, 01:05 PM
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Default AA against LAG

Villain is a fairly LAGGY but seemingly winning regular at these games (NONER). Those who play at Absolute know what I mean. I play with him a ton so we definitely have history.

6-handed. UTG raises. Next to act folds. Bad LAG 3-bets next to act. I coldcap AA OTB. Noner calls 3.67 in the SB. BB folds. UTG and LAG both call. I table select good, and there are 4 of us to the flop for 17SB.

THe flop is 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. I have the A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Noner checks. UTG checks. LAG checks. I bet. Noner checkraises. UTG folds. LAG folds. I call.

The turn is the 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Noner bets. I raise. Noner 3-bets. Plan for rest of the hand? (Cap, call down, call/raise river...)

Also, any comments on flop play? Had I held black Aces I probably would have played it faster.

Rob
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Old 12-14-2005, 01:17 PM
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A turn cap is too much. Just call down, planning to raise an A, 2 or 3 on the river.
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Old 12-14-2005, 01:22 PM
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Default Re: AA against LAG

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A turn cap is too much. Just call down, planning to raise an A, 2 or 3 on the river.

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If you are planning or raising any 2 or 3 on the river then why not raise any card on the river? Do you really put him on 2-pair on the turn?
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Old 12-14-2005, 01:46 PM
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A turn cap is too much. Just call down, planning to raise an A, 2 or 3 on the river.

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If you are planning or raising any 2 or 3 on the river then why not raise any card on the river? Do you really put him on 2-pair on the turn?

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Q9 and sets are the most likely holdings that beat us. We win against anything else. Given his turn action, we're behind often on the turn, but what sets could he have that he didn't 3-bet preflop? Rule out queens and possibly nines. That leaves 2s or 3s. Either one of those pairing on the river will reduce the liklihood of him having a set and makes a river raise against his other holdings more profitable.

EDIT: I didn't see that NONER called a cold-cap PF. I thought he called 2 bets. Given that, we can't rule out 999 or QQQ. The river raise is much closer now, but I still feel Q9s is a good part of his range that we're behind.
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Old 12-15-2005, 05:18 AM
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A turn cap is too much. Just call down, planning to raise an A, 2 or 3 on the river.

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A 2 or 3 doesn't change anything here.
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Old 12-14-2005, 01:20 PM
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You capped preflop and took a pretty standard smooth-call the flop/raise the turn line which normally indicates a lot of strength. Everything you are communicating to him says that you have QQ/KK/AA and he still 3-bets you on the turn. Things aren't looking good. I just call down and hope to spike an Ace.
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Old 12-14-2005, 01:22 PM
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Default Re: AA against LAG

same
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Old 12-14-2005, 01:25 PM
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Why no cap preflop? If these guys are as bad as you claim then they will probably still pay you off either way right?
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Old 12-14-2005, 01:25 PM
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my boy coldcapped
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Old 12-14-2005, 01:27 PM
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Default Re: AA against LAG

id just call the turn and call river. i wouldnt put in a raise there but since you did i think you can fold to the 3 bet. btw i know who noner is etc.
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