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Old 11-29-2005, 10:19 AM
punter11235 punter11235 is offline
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Default basic line where I think I am losing money - 5/10 6max

I think I started making some stupid things recently so I am questioning basic lines... Villain in this hand in unknown 30/10 after 50 hands. No other reads yet.
I dont know what to do on the flop... I suspect calling is standard but what's my plan on the blank turn ? check-fold ? bet fold ? What's standard here ?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button ($1629)
SB ($435.50)
BB ($1278)
Hero ($1025)
MP ($815)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $5.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $35</font>, MP calls $35, Button calls $35, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($120) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $80</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $160</font>, Button folds, Hero calls $80.

Turn: ($440) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $250</font>, MP folds.

Final Pot: $690

All comments appreciated
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Old 11-29-2005, 10:26 AM
Allinlife Allinlife is offline
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Default Re: basic line where I think I am losing money - 5/10 6max

gotta fold that on flop w/o solid reads because it's impossible to extract more from worse hands / or get cheap showdown OOP (because you will likely be forced to check most turns, showing somewhat of a weakness).

I think turn bluff looks good, the bet size makes it look like a value bet, kind of bet you'd make with sets/ AJ.
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Old 11-29-2005, 10:30 AM
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Default Re: basic line where I think I am losing money - 5/10 6max

Unless theyve been messing with you or calling lots of your open raises in position then easy fold on teh flop to the minraise with no draws on board.
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Old 11-29-2005, 10:30 AM
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Default Re: basic line where I think I am losing money - 5/10 6max

i like the way u played this hand.
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Old 11-29-2005, 10:48 AM
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Default Re: basic line where I think I am losing money - 5/10 6max

Yeah, but what happens if that A doesnt hit. I think that A really helped you out on this hand. If a blank low card comes off do you still bet?
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Old 11-29-2005, 10:49 AM
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Default Re: basic line where I think I am losing money - 5/10 6max

yes.
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Old 11-29-2005, 10:55 AM
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Default Re: basic line where I think I am losing money - 5/10 6max

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do you still bet?

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My original plan was to bet a blank turn. I am not sure about it.. (that's why I post the hand). I think Villain often have lower pair or he hit his connector as natural play with J is a call for most Villains. I dont know if it is worth continuing though.
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Old 11-29-2005, 12:04 PM
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Why did you call the raise to $160 with the jack on board? To me it looks like the villain put you on AK and folded when the A hit .
Also according to Sklansky and Malmuth 99 is a calling hand in early position.
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Old 11-29-2005, 12:13 PM
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Default Re: basic line where I think I am losing money - 5/10 6max

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Also according to Sklansky and Malmuth 99 is a calling hand in early position.

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In their book on short-handed no limit games?
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Old 11-29-2005, 01:25 PM
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Default Re: basic line where I think I am losing money - 5/10 6max

his hand looks alot like either a mid strengh top pair type hand or a big hand. either way, unless a great card falls on the turn (ace), your line isnt any better than either 3 betting or folding. i like flat calling raises like that on the flop if i am in position, so i can pot the turn if he checks it. that isnt the case here, so i see no real benefit to playing it this way.

given that you got to the turn how you did, i like the lead out alot.
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