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Old 12-13-2005, 03:41 PM
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Default River bluff check raise

Button had sort of solid stats 23/9/something decent

I'm not sure if those hands were from short or full games, so he's either a little too loose or a little too passive, but he's got the right idea.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: (7.66 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, Button calls.

Turn: (5.33 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP2 checks, Button checks.

River: (5.33 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>
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Old 12-13-2005, 03:46 PM
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Default Re: River bluff check raise

I'd bet the turn. Coldcalling pf and then calling the flop could easily be overcards like KQ or AJ, and I want to bet here to either charge KQ or give AJ a chance to fold.
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Old 12-13-2005, 03:50 PM
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Default Re: River bluff check raise

I hate it, I think all the hands that are beating you will call. What are you representing 55-88 for a boat? If you are perceived as a solid player, I wouldn't give you much credit for the boat since your raised UTG in a almost full ring game. Any hand with a 9 doesn't make sense since you would have fired the turn with (99) and wouldn't have raised from UTG with the others (A9)...
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Old 12-13-2005, 03:54 PM
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I hate it, I think all the hands that are beating you will call. What are you representing 55-88 for a boat? If you are perceived as a solid player, I wouldn't give you much credit for the boat since your raised UTG in a almost full ring game. Any hand with a 9 doesn't make sense since you would have fired the turn with (99) and wouldn't have raised from UTG with the others (A9)...

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Fwiw I would raise preflop with 66 and A9s.
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Old 12-13-2005, 04:02 PM
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If I'm leading out on the flop like this and not getting raised, then I would rather bet the turn and check the river.
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Old 12-13-2005, 04:50 PM
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Default Re: River bluff check raise

if you won this hand you weren't bluffing.
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Old 12-13-2005, 04:55 PM
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someone knowing me would know it's a bluff ... I almost never raise any of them UTG in a full game. But I'm playing 30/60 if that change anything.
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Old 12-13-2005, 06:04 PM
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Default Re: River bluff check raise

its 7 handed
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Old 12-13-2005, 06:08 PM
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I almost never raise any of them UTG in a full game. But I'm playing 30/60 if that change anything.

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I don't think the limit matters at all, at least not 15/30 -&gt; 30/60. Also, this game wasn't "full", it was 7 handed.
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Old 12-13-2005, 06:10 PM
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if you won this hand you weren't bluffing.

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You don't think MP could fold a pair or better ace? I agree that the button pretty much never folds a better hand, but that wasn't the goal.
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