JTs faces flop min-check/raise

ajmargarine · #1 12-07-2005, 03:46 AM

Reads: Villian tries to be tricky and trappy somewhat. He bluffs scare cards quite a bit with air. He's also overbet the nuts a few times and gotten calls. He seem's OK, but is unpredictable. He's pretty passive preflop but can get aggressive postflop. This session I've raised his preflop limp to $13 at least 12 times. About half those times he called me preflop and c/f'd to my continuation bets. This is the first time he's played back at me. (I've also done this quite a bit with other players at the table, as they all have been real passive preflop).

$1/$3 NLHE 5-handed (Yes, this is online, my small site has some weird limits between NL100 and NL1000).

Hero ($350)
Villian ($420)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
Villian calls $3, Hero raises to $13, 3 folds, Villian calls $10.

Flop: ($28.50) K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>
Villian checks, Hero bets $20, Villian raises to $40, Hero??

I had settled in to betting $20 the last few times I raised to $13 and got one caller, whether I had the goods or not, so this is what they've been seeing for the last 20 minutes out of me in this situation, a $20 bet.

What should Hero do, and what's his plan for the rest of the hand?

scdavis0 · #2 12-07-2005, 03:47 AM

Against a player like this I call. There's a really good chance he'll try to represent your actual hand if a diamond hits.

Bukem_ · #3 12-07-2005, 03:48 AM

Call, use position.

Big_Jim · #4 12-07-2005, 03:51 AM

Given stack sizes.. I think calling is really the only way to go.

Any big raise you make here puts you in an ugly spot.

Call down until you improve... debate calling river unimproved.

soah · #5 12-07-2005, 03:55 AM

Certainly fold the river unimproved. He hasn't folded the last 12 times just so he can bluff on the 13th.

Big_Jim · #6 12-07-2005, 03:58 AM

Many of these villians will continue with weak ass bets on the later streets. In this case, I think the information/chance that he's donking it up, may be worth it.

If he is in the other camp and bets pot or near pot on turn and river, fold.

#7 12-07-2005, 03:59 AM

Call, let your position operate. A miniraise here is just too unlikely for a bluff.

Bukem_ · #8 12-07-2005, 04:00 AM

Btw I like my chops and start counting the money he is going to give when when he puts me in this spot.

Big_Jim · #9 12-07-2005, 04:02 AM

[ QUOTE ]
A miniraise here is just too unlikely for a bluff.

[/ QUOTE ]
There's a lot of debate as to the truth of this statement.

I see a lot of donks do it with crap.

scdavis0 · #10 12-07-2005, 04:04 AM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
A miniraise here is just too unlikely for a bluff.

[/ QUOTE ]
There's a lot of debate as to the truth of this statement.

I see a lot of donks do it with crap.

[/ QUOTE ]

Which is exactly why I find it ridiculous when people get min check-raised and then half-pot bet on the turn with AK
on a K743 board and 90% of the board advocates a fold.