QQ NL 1K

Staycool · #1 12-01-2005, 12:24 AM

Villain is unknown. Haven't seen him step out of line, or play many pots yet. I've also been playing fairly abc, doubled up with a set of 4s a few hands earlier.

villain (1K) limps utg, I make it 40 with black QQ, villain calls.

Flop 5c 4c Ts villain check-calls 70

Turn 7d Checked to me, I bet 170, villain CRs to 415

Your action. (Sorry if this is too std, just wondering what most of you do here.) Thanks.

HatesLosing · #2 12-01-2005, 01:14 AM

Well it sure looks like you're beat to me and you only have 2 cards left in the deck that can save you. Mother Muck the ladies and if it bothers you, then go ahead and confirm/deny your suspicions by going observed hand history crazy on this guy for the next week.

Staycool · #3 12-01-2005, 01:54 AM

I don't have a problem folding overpairs, but what hands CR that turn?

ahnuld · #4 12-01-2005, 01:57 AM

Ya i let this one go. But i also check behind turn and get to showdown.

creedofhubris · #5 12-01-2005, 02:08 AM

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I don't have a problem folding overpairs, but what hands CR that turn?

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a set

maybe AA, KK, but those are less likely

surfinillini · #6 12-01-2005, 02:12 AM

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I don't have a problem folding overpairs, but what hands CR that turn?

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55 or 44, check call the flop, raise turn, usually smells of set.

Staycool · #7 12-01-2005, 03:20 AM

My friend who is quite good (ie better than me) was trying to convince me that in this spot villain will often hold some kind of combo draw.

I think a lot of cards can kill action for the flopped set if he chooses the check-call line on this flop, though of course I'd expect to see that some % of the time.

It sounds like everyone so far expects me to be toast in this spot though...

#8 12-01-2005, 03:36 AM

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Ya i let this one go. But i also check behind turn and get to showdown.

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you're going to give a free card if the villain does have a draw. isn't his too weak or do ppl do this often? id bet the turn and fold to a raise based on the reads i have no villain.

Staycool · #9 12-01-2005, 04:10 AM

Since reasonable club draws can include overcards, I basically never check this turn...I think folding to the CR is fine/std, but during the hand I didn't think he'd flopped a set.

Jeebus · #10 12-01-2005, 04:17 AM

the 7 doesn't fit the combo draw really, unless you are going to assume 67 of (clubs was it I forget and don't want to push back). I've seen this plenty of times with top pair/goodpair A kicker and the flush draw, and in that case the move would be to push or massive bet to price them out. I actually got this opportunity tonight and it was fun. However without knowning the playing you probably got to lay it down assuming its a set.