$109 Party - Tough Situation - Er, I think...

Hey guys,

Can you tell me what y'all would do here? This tournament had just started, so I didn't really have any reads yet.

Thanks,

BM


NL Texas Hold'em $100 Buy-in + $9 Entry Fee Level:1 Blinds(10/15)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: G ( $970 )
Seat 2: T ( $825 )
Seat 3: N ( $1110 )
Seat 4: Q ( $830 )
Seat 5: M ( $1210 )
Seat 6: R ( $1340 )
Seat 9: L ( $985 )
Seat 10: P ( $770 )
Seat 8: W ( $1060 )
Seat 7: Hero ( $900 )
Trny:16489952 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Ac 8c ]
G folds.
T folds.
N calls [15].
Q folds.
M folds.
R folds.
Hero calls [15].
W calls [15].
L folds.
P checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8h, 9c, 7c ]
P checks.
N bets [150].
Hero raises [300].
W calls [300].
P folds.
N is all-In [945]

Hero?

[Oluwafemi]

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** Dealing Flop ** [ 8h, 9c, 7c ]
P checks.
N bets [150].
Hero folds.

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[pineapple888]

You have to call at the end because of your pot odds.

I sure don't like your line before that, though. I fold to the initial flop bet. Although I probably fold pre-flop to start with anyway.

[Exitonly]

You guys really fold??

a pair and a flush draw is a sexy hand, why would you dump it so easily.. i'm taking advantage of his overbet and pushing him..

for you guys suggesting to fold the flop... then why on earth would you call preflop? this is an ideal flop for that hand.

I agree that this is a great flop for his hand, and I don't mind the preflop limp.

But what hand are you hoping to be against here? I think it's obvious he has two pair or better and is protecting the hand from straight and flush draws.

[DyessMan89]

So many weak-tighties on this board. You are more than min-raising that flop. You are poooooshing.

[pineapple888]

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You guys really fold??

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Really.

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a pair and a flush draw is a sexy hand, why would you dump it so easily..

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I prefer money to sex.

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i'm taking advantage of his overbet and pushing him..



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A semi-bluff push is tempting, but I just don't like my fold equity here. With a bunch of limpers, one or more of the villains is likely to have a nice piece of that flop, and I'm thinking some of my usual outs in this situation won't get me there (e.g., two pair).

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for you guys suggesting to fold the flop... then why on earth would you call preflop? this is an ideal flop for that hand.

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That's why I wouldn't usually call pre-flop. If I did, I might take a shot on the flop if I was first in the pot, but I'd be ready to slow down if I got any action.

[Exitonly]

i think he's right, that is a bit weak tight..

but folding you're giving him credit for more than a pair, and admitting you have no fold equity.. two things i'm not willing to do.

You are ahead of just one pair here, pretty close to even vs two pair, and still 35% vs a made straight/set.

i'm too lazy to double check those numbers so they might be a bit off, but it's close.

I didn't think it was obvious that he had two pair or better based on that bet. Overbets look suspicious to me. By min-raising, I hoped to accomplish one of two things without putting my entire stack on the line:

(1) Since I had position and a pretty monstrous hand (am I wrong in thinking that middle pair and the nut flush draw is "pretty monstrous"?), I thought a min-raise might enable me to see two additional cards for free, while disguising my draw.
(2) I thought that there was an outside chance that the original bettor would fold if he had been caught getting too frisky.

I can see how one might decide to fold on the flop. As for the pre-flop limp - I've had pretty good success limping in with hands like this one and going for the cheap draw-out.

[Exitonly]

i'd be less concerned about the free cards, and more concerned about getting all my money in the middle trrying to win the pot now.