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Old 12-01-2005, 03:03 AM
PokerBob PokerBob is offline
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Default I call down with AKs

villain here is 25/19/3. yes?
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Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (6 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8 BB
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Old 12-01-2005, 03:07 AM
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Default Re: I call down with AKs

eesh. Tough one. I think I let it go on the river, though.
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Old 12-01-2005, 03:11 AM
Monty Cantsin Monty Cantsin is offline
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Default Re: I call down with AKs

This can't possibly be a situation with one correct line, can it? Even against this particular player, on this particular board, I think you would want to mix this up somewhat. Right?

/mc
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Old 12-01-2005, 03:16 AM
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Default Re: I call down with AKs

Looks good to me. Villan only needs to be playing a worse A high 13% of the time to make this call profitable. A TAG is likely to play a low A high against a possible steal this way.
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Old 12-01-2005, 03:24 AM
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Default Re: I call down with AKs

*grunch*
do you think that villain bluffs a busted flushdraw more than 15% on the river? Only then the call is worthwhile.
The turn-call is ok because of your gutshot and your overcards may be good. Although an A or K coming could make quite some 2pairs for hands tight players could defend with in the BB like AXs, AT or KT, maybe even K5s. So your overcard outs won't be good all the time. I don't really think you want to see a SD here.
Because I hate folding to river bets (and are completely new to SH), I'd really like to know what other people think about folding the turn here.
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Old 12-01-2005, 03:41 AM
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Default Re: I call down with AKs

I like it. I can't see folding this anywhere.

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Old 12-01-2005, 04:04 AM
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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

118 games 0.060 secs 1,966 games/sec

Board: 2c 5c Th 3h Jd
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 11.0169 % 11.02% 00.00% { AsKs }
Hand 2: 88.9831 % 88.98% 00.00% { 55, 22, A4s-A2s, Kc7c, Kc6c, K5s, Kc4c, Kc3c, K2s, Qc8c, Qc7c, Qc6c, Q5s, Qc4c, Qc3c, Q2s, Jc9c, Jc8c, Jc7c, Jc6c, Jc5c, Tc9c, Tc8c, Tc7c, Tc6c, 9c8c, 9c7c, 9c6c, 8c7c, 8c6c, 8c5c, 7c6c, 7c5c, 6c5c, 6c4c, 5c4c, A5o, A2o, K5o, K2o, Q5o, JTo, T7o+ }

I would fold. The above assumes he bets the river every time with a busted flush draw and its still not enough. So even if you remove some of the hands that beat us because he wouldn't always play them like that, I doubt that you could get enough equity to justify a call.
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Old 12-01-2005, 05:19 AM
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I'm not sure but I think a TAG would lean toward checking the river with a worse A rather than taking another stab at it.
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Old 12-01-2005, 05:29 AM
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I fold on the river.
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Old 12-01-2005, 05:50 AM
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Default Re: I call down with AKs

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I'm not sure but I think a TAG would lean toward checking the river with a worse A rather than taking another stab at it.

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As I said most the agruments you can make against my range make it more of a fold.
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