QQ with Overcard Flop - What's the play?

[hakeem]

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Results:

After the turn Q: UTG bets, I raise, button folds, UTG calls.

River: Brick

UTG checks, I bet, UTG folds.

When I turn over my hand, UTG says that he threw away the best hand: 3 Ks.

Would most players throw away 3 Ks here for one bet?

Clearly, I represented the J for the straight with the re-raise, but I'm curious as to how many would actually not make the call on the river.

Thanks

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Why did you turn over your hand? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Hooked on Fish]

For the future. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[Knockwurst]

I think you should have three bet preflop. Flop call is all right. I like betting out or raising a bet on the turn here. I think Sklansky would recommend checking, based on his recommendation in HPFAP that on the turn you check or call if you have a decent amount of outs (ie. flush, straight or boat draw) and bet out if you don't have a lot of outs TPTK or two pair (but maybe I'm wrong about that). In any case I like betting out and if you get reraised you're obviously up against a straight but you have a good number of outs. The only problem is if you're up against a straight and AK or AQ then you're reduced to four outs. But I like a raise here anyway.

[mplspoker]

If your not 3 betting QQ you shouldn't be playing 30/60. Your reasoning is absolutely horrible for not 3 betting....

[TonyBlair]

The idea is to learn on this site I suppose. I think there's every reason to raise preflop here and none against. All your difficult decisions stem from not reraising preflop.
Having said that, if this rock is going to play like this on every hand then by all means call and raise him for fun. He sucks (I have learned to love that phrase), unless he knows you well - in which case he might suck a bit less.

[Hooked on Fish]

You are right. In the future, I won't let the fact that a rock rasied UTG deter my 3-betting Qs.

[elysium]

hi hooked

reraise the pre-flop. fold the flop.

[mmcd]

While these is some room to mix it up and play differently with certain hands preflop, QQ is a hand that I ALWAYS 3-bet an open raiser with.

You can sometimes cold-call AKs, AKo. You might occasionally cold-call (or even fold) JJ. You might cold-call AA or KK against certain opponents. BUT YOU MUST ALWAYS 3-BET QQ!!!!!!

[Piers]

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Results:
When I turn over my hand, UTG says that he threw away the best hand: 3 Ks.

Thanks

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What makes you think he was telling the truth?

[Hooked on Fish]

Someone else who knows this player well also questioned whether or not he was telling the truth. Now that I think about it a little longer, perhaps he wasn't, and perhaps he was just bragging about how big of a laydown he is capable of. I have seen him do it before. So, perhaps he wasn't. Who will really know for sure?