Rosa Parks takes the bus - Page 2

Frozen · #11 10-25-2005, 06:30 AM

What I'm about to say is meant in absolutely no disrespect for Rosa Parks. In fact, this is the first celebrity death in over a decade to cause my eyes to water at all.

There is a lesson here for all of us. Not just about the woman's cause, but specifically about her methods. Rosa Parks did not undertake a 15-year bureaucratic petitioning process to bring change (nor is it in her very nature to even consider doing such a thing)... she just sat down.

How are you enjoying the U.S. government's 'War on Drugs' ? Did you know that every year, more Americans are arrested for simple marijuana possession than the total number busted for violent crimes?

( http://www.drugwarfacts.org/crime.htm )

If you (in general) weren't such a bunch of God Damned Pussies, you'd protest prohibition the Rosa Parks way: Just use your drug of choice in the open. This is nothing to be ashamed of at all. That's the only way things will ever change.

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showth...threadid=57141

#12 10-25-2005, 07:22 AM

Awesome, because everyone knows that skyrocketing use of heroin and meth among teens is good for families.

Friggin jackass.

Frozen · #13 10-25-2005, 07:32 AM

"Awesome, because everyone knows that skyrocketing use of heroin and meth among teens is good for families.
Friggin jackass. "

Now explain to me exactly how prohibition has been in any way successful in keeping drugs out of the hands of users.
Why do the E.U. and Schweiz (With their lax drug prohibition policies) have far lower addiction rates than the U.S.?

http://www.drugwarfacts.org/internat.htm

That's all I should say here. This thread is devoted to a true American heroine. I only intended to make one post here, and only on the effectiveness of her method of protest, and its versatility in fighting injustice everywhere.

Cyrus · #14 10-25-2005, 08:20 AM

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[Rosa Parks] was used as a pawn for a movement. Nothing wrong with that. [Sha was] a "test case" for something without having to do anything.
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Nice gig if you can get it.

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A pawn is meant to refer to someone who is unwillingly used by a higher power. Rosa Parks demonstrated by her stance throughout her life that she was nothing of the sort. She may not have been a rich girl and she did not enjoy the collective social power a white girl had by default, but she made the best she could out of the hand that life had dealt her.

Only someone who does not know her life story or is an unreconstructed racist would claim otherwise.

Anyway... I'm sure that in your particular mind frame, it is grating that all 'em uppity negros got ahead of themselves, caused all sorts of trouble down South and finally won their daymn Civil Rahts Act. I'm also sure that pictures (in magazines or, probably, mental) of black males fondling and doing other stuff to tender, succulent white female flesh gets you all upset.

That is what's nice.

Beer and Pizza · #15 10-25-2005, 08:43 AM

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A pawn is meant to refer to someone who is unwillingly used by a higher power.

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Being used unwillingly is not always what is meant. I used the term in the neutral sense (as in the Chess piece) definition = a person used by another to gain an end

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Anyway... I'm sure that in your particular mind frame, it is grating that all 'em uppity negros got ahead of themselves, caused all sorts of trouble down South and finally won their daymn Civil Rahts Act. I'm also sure that pictures (in magazines or, probably, mental) of black males fondling and doing other stuff to tender, succulent white female flesh gets you all upset.

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All this racist crap is in your mind. Everything I said in this thread is just describing her role in the movement as a basically passive person used by others. If you have a problem with her passive role as a pawn, that is your concern.

There is nothing wrong with being a pawn, there is something wrong with you trying to suggest that a pawn is somehow something more than a pawn.

Norma McCorvey was also a pawn, does that bother you too?

mackthefork · #16 10-25-2005, 09:00 AM

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Anyway... I'm sure that in your particular mind frame, it is grating that all 'em uppity negros got ahead of themselves, caused all sorts of trouble down South and finally won their daymn Civil Rahts Act. I'm also sure that pictures (in magazines or, probably, mental) of black males fondling and doing other stuff to tender, succulent white female flesh gets you all upset.

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All this racist crap is in your mind. Everything I said in this thread is just describing her role in the movement as a basically passive person used by others. If you have a problem with her passive role as a pawn, that is your concern.

There is nothing wrong with being a pawn, there is something wrong with you trying to suggest that a pawn is somehow something more than a pawn.

Norma McCorvey was also a pawn, does that bother you too?

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No, he hit the nail right and squarely on the head.

Mack

ACPlayer · #17 10-25-2005, 09:06 AM

Yep. Cyrus' post was on the money.

She said she would not move, she did not move. Whether at the suggestion of others or not - that is immaterial. It required guts, real guts. It is often the quiet unassuming types who get real things done.

The country is better off as a result.

Thanks!!!!

Cyrus · #18 10-25-2005, 09:10 AM

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[Rosa Parks'] role in the movement [was] as a basically passive person used by others.

[/ QUOTE ]Rosa Parks would not sit at the back of the bus. That's all she did. A big choice for her, a giant step for America. Happened in a small Mississippi bus, some fifty years ago.

She did not have a "grand plan", she did not receive any orders or instructions, she had not alerted the TV cameras and she was not in touch with any lawyer. A pawn is someone who acts completely differently.

Subsequently, of course, Rosa Parks' case was taken up by activists. Her initial act of courage and her subsequent willingness to take the matter further contributed in a big way to the civil rights movement. She was not "taken advantage of"; rather, her case took a life of its own and became a rallying cause.

The civil rights movement was also fuelled by the vicious torture and killing in Mississippi of Emmett Till, a black teenager who committed the mortal sin of "whistling at a white woman". By your logic, Emmett Till was also a pawn...

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There is nothing wrong with being a pawn, there is something wrong with you trying to suggest that a pawn is somehow something more than a pawn.

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There is nothing right with being a racist.

When someone describes Rosa Parks as a "passive person" and a "pawn", as you did, then that person is (a) a lousy speaker of English, (b) out of his f*cking mind, or (c) a racist.

Beer and Pizza · #19 10-25-2005, 09:26 AM

The old attack the messenger routine, and three of you have fallen for it. Why the need to make her into something she is not?

Better to honor the real person than a counterfeited image. Why be afraid to see her as see really was?

And why the racial attacks when someone points out the truth?

Beer and Pizza · #20 10-25-2005, 09:29 AM

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There is nothing right with being a racist.

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Then you should stop acting that way.

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When someone describes Rosa Parks as a "passive person" and a "pawn", as you did, then that person is (a) a lousy speaker of English, (b) out of his f*cking mind, or (c) a racist.

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or d) has actually read her biography and is relating it to you.

Go read it for yourself.