KQ not suited - You have no idea just how powerful I am - Page 3

Vroomster · #21 07-20-2005, 02:53 AM

My guess is Kx of some kind, but I feel lost.

What were the results?

savman · #22 07-20-2005, 03:47 AM

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If an unknown player smooth calls on that flop when you make a big bet, wouldn't you give them credit for something that beats KQ?

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why not take a free card/induce a bluff if you're always beaten when your flop underbet is called?

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agreed, check through on turn and call river.

CamelZoo · #23 07-20-2005, 01:49 PM

results?

please tell me you didn't fold

augie00 · #24 07-20-2005, 01:59 PM

Holy crap, how did this thread get bumped? It is old. I don't remember the results, let me look...

augie00 · #25 07-20-2005, 02:05 PM

Oh, haha, found it.

I raised to 104 on the river and he called and showed AJ for the nut straight.

arod15 · #26 07-20-2005, 02:13 PM

calls and loses to a straigt?

slickpoppa · #27 07-20-2005, 03:31 PM

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Oh, haha, found it.

I raised to 104 on the river and he called and showed AJ for the nut straight.

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That's a terrible raise. The only hand you are likely to get called by that you beat is KT, and if he had that he probably would have raised himself.

theben · #28 07-20-2005, 04:28 PM

if you fold this river and make a profit doing it, you should not be playing in those games

anatta · #29 07-20-2005, 05:52 PM

"However, why is everyone getting so up in arms about my bet on the turn?"

This is my first no-limit post as I am a limit pro, but I read Greensteins book and he talks about making a bet on the turn to represent a minimal amount of strength so that you can fold to a raise. You say you would rather bet 32 and fold an not risk $50, but maybe the problem others have is that your bet is small and that its not only easier to call but might set you up for a move.

That said, you think you got all the info you need to fold to a turn check-raise from this players flop call given the board and you knowledge of the player and his of you and such. I can see that too.

Here is why I decided to check out NL...from my second time playing...

Live NL hand I played while waiting for a limit game. KT free play BB. $10 in pot 3 players. Flop J high, checked around. Turn 9. Checked around. River Q. SB checks, I bet $10. Button raises all in $300. SB goes all-in $300. SB shows T8 and says nuts. Button has Jacks-up.

FoxwoodsFiend · #30 07-20-2005, 07:18 PM

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KQ not suited is powerful, but does she know just how powerful it is?!??! What do I do on the river? Can anyone justify folding here?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (9 handed) converter

SB ($399.60)
BB ($228)
UTG ($388.70)
UTG+1 ($454.30)
MP1 ($167.40)
Hero ($400)
MP3 ($1019.85)
CO ($238.60)
Button ($325.30)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises to $12, 3 folds, SB calls $10, 1 fold.

Flop: ($28) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $24, SB calls $24.

Turn: ($76) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $32, SB calls $32.

River: ($140) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $52, Hero???

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This is a joke, right? If you fold this, give up on No Limit.