Good overbet?

[Chaostracize]

No reads. I'll post my thoughts after a little discussion.


***** Hand History for Game 2362951089 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:13928378 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Thursday, July 14, 15:29:26 EDT 2005
Table Table 11899 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: Woo25 ( $1200 )
Seat 2: CiaoMein ( $915 )
Seat 5: HANILCH ( $1005 )
Seat 6: Kozmo40 ( $1965 )
Seat 10: DITECH_COM ( $2085 )
Seat 9: STUCKINLODI ( $1340 )
Seat 7: lg004571 ( $475 )
Seat 3: PocketDaniel ( $1015 )
Trny:13928378 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to CiaoMein [ Ah 8h ]
lg004571 folds.
STUCKINLODI folds.
DITECH_COM folds.
Woo25 folds.
CiaoMein raises [150].
PocketDaniel folds.
>You have options at Table 12084 Table!.
HANILCH folds.
Kozmo40 calls [100].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7h, Jc, Th ]
Kozmo40 checks.
CiaoMein is all-In [765]...

(Convertor is down for the count)

[mlagoo]

Seems ok. The only other option I see is checking it through for a free-card, which seems a bit weak-tight. Any other bet basically pot commits you anyway with less fold equity, so I don't see a reason for it.

[durron597]

You have at least 12 clean outs, if not 15. This is fine.

[lastchance]

Standard. Even if I don't have the heart draw, I'm shoving here.

[curtains]

I'd definitely move allin on this flop. You don't want someone thinking they can get fancy on you with 55 when you only have an ace high draw.

[11t]

Only bad if he flopped a set.

[11t]

After the preflop raise, checking behind is very no bueno imo.

[AKQJ10]

Given the number of outs, you're probably a favorite in the hand. Wouldn't it be better to induce your opponent to bet into you after making your hand? There are only 6 blinds in the pot anyway -- do you really want to push your opponent out of a smallish pot as a favorite?

Depending on your table image, etc. I think a "post oak" bet of 25% of the pot or less might have an interesting effect. If he folds, you lost nothing except maybe an induced bluff (remote). If he reads it for weakness and raises, THEN you push. If he calls and bets the turn, then it depends on pot odds and the turn but you probably semibluff-push then.

[mlagoo]

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After the preflop raise, checking behind is very no bueno imo.

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No, I agree. The only merit to this is that if you get lucky and spike a heart or a 9 on the turn, there's a chance you get bet out at, which is nice. Maybe you can make a few more chips off of the hand.

The play is allin though.

[AKQJ10]

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...if you get lucky and spike a heart or a 9 on the turn...

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I've never heard "spike" used to refer to a 12-outer. Even "get lucky" is pushing it. And an ace will probably make a winning hand too.