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Old 02-25-2005, 03:49 PM
mike l. mike l. is offline
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Default K7s 40-80 bb flop question

i have Ks7s in the bb in a good 40-80 game at commerce. nobody at the table plays good except me. some guy raises middle position we dont know anything about him, someone cold calls, a poster in the cutoff calls, the sb who is really loose but we dont know her aggression level, calls, i call. 5 of us.

the flop is 743 all hearts and the sb bets. what's my play with my top pair?
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Old 02-25-2005, 03:52 PM
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I would say that I need to know more about the players, but I think I would fold this. There is going to be too much action on this hand for my modest holding.
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Old 02-25-2005, 04:04 PM
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i have Ks7s in the bb in a good 40-80 game at commerce. nobody at the table plays good except me. some guy raises middle position we dont know anything about him, someone cold calls, a poster in the cutoff calls, the sb who is really loose but we dont know her aggression level, calls, i call. 5 of us.

the flop is 743 all hearts and the sb bets. what's my play with my top pair?

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With 4 other players, no reads, bad position, and a dangerous board, this should be an easy fold. You are looking to flop a flush draw, two pair, or better with this hand in this position. When none of those come, its time to get out.
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Old 02-25-2005, 04:07 PM
J.A.Sucker J.A.Sucker is offline
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I think you have an easy raise.
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Old 02-25-2005, 04:08 PM
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I would call. While I don't like the situation, it's worth the one small bet getting 11:1 to see what happens behind me.
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Old 02-25-2005, 04:12 PM
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I think you have an easy raise.

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Are you serious? If he is ahead at this point, which is questionable, he still has to dodge most of the deck, twice, for his hand to hold up, and he has already been bet into with 3 people he has no reads on still to act behind him. I could never raise here. But maybe that is because I am bad.
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Old 02-25-2005, 04:13 PM
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I know the pot is big, but your reverse implied odds stink here. I would fold.
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Old 02-25-2005, 04:25 PM
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I would call. While I don't like the situation, it's worth the one small bet getting 11:1 to see what happens behind me.

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I agree. Call, evaluate the subsequent action, and take it from there.
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Old 02-25-2005, 05:07 PM
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Calling is a viable option, but I prefer to make the rest of the field make decisions. People are more likely to give their hand away when it's two bets to them. Folding is last on my list, though.
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Old 02-25-2005, 05:14 PM
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i like calling or folding. folding is probably better if the games are as crazy at the commerce as everyone says they are. i'd call at foxwoods since nobody is raising here without the flush.
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