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3-handed.
Preflop: Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Button raises, Hero 3-bets, BB caps, Button calls, Hero calls. Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero checks, BB bets, Button calls, Hero CRs, BB 3-bets, Button calls, Hero calls (planning on check-folding most turns). Thoughts? |
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I don't like the flop c/r, I think your info was plenty clear preflop. Check call flop, check fold turn unimproved.
-Mike |
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i'd bet out this flop, then call a raise, and re-evaluate on the turn
BB could have AK or any two hearts and make this play |
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If it weren't 3 way capped preflop, I'd like this move. Seeing how it is, I'm really not too thrilled. BB cold capped and button called 2 cold, so they it's not like you're up against a hand that got sucked into the pot. Even though your check raise is aiming to get you info, you will still get a hand like JJ or TT stuck in the middle, and 3 handed I'm not so sure they let it go. I think one of these two will have a pair or AQ enough times to make this overall -ev. I check/fold to the flop action but I'm also very weak I think.
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IMO my hand is much too strong to check-call, check fold the turn; bear in mind that AK is the BB's most likely hand here right now, and the Button has shown no indication of a pair.
So I'm posed with the problem of finding out whether my hand is good, and protecting it, without expending too many bets. I feel that while betting this flop and getting raised may offer the best protection, it doesn't really give any reliable information, and so this is a very expensive route. CR'ing is cheap and usually reliable, and if the BB does have AK (or AJ), it's very unlikely that the button is drawing to more than 3 outs, so I'm not all that concerned about protection. |
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Thoughts? [/ QUOTE ] I play a much smaller limit than the 30/60 but here are my thoughts anyways. Checkraising two players here is incorrect. Betting out is the better play if your going to the turn. I lean towards check folding Stu |
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IMO my hand is much too strong to check-call, check fold the turn; bear in mind that AK is the BB's most likely hand here right now, and the Button has shown no indication of a pair. So I'm posed with the problem of finding out whether my hand is good, and protecting it, without expending too many bets. I feel that while betting this flop and getting raised may offer the best protection, it doesn't really give any reliable information, and so this is a very expensive route. CR'ing is cheap and usually reliable, and if the BB does have AK (or AJ), it's very unlikely that the button is drawing to more than 3 outs, so I'm not all that concerned about protection. [/ QUOTE ] I agree about the flop C/R, and I play it the same. You want the field to "think" that you have a big hand and are comitting yourself to showdown--this has the added benefit of perhaps slowing them down later, if they do not slow down on the flop. C/R for info can work/can be reliable if your opponents are predicatable, but I would not rely on this tactic purely for info gathering unless, again, your opponents are predictable. 3-betting your c/r can mean a slew of things, and this is where having good reads come in. Also, why do you seem to auto-put the BB on AK so easily? |
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[ QUOTE ] Thoughts? [/ QUOTE ] I play a much smaller limit than the 30/60 but here are my thoughts anyways. Checkraising two players here is incorrect. Betting out is the better play if your going to the turn. I lean towards check folding Stu [/ QUOTE ] I'm interested in your observations. Would you care to elaborate on each statement? |
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Also, why do you seem to auto-put the BB on AK so easily? [/ QUOTE ] I'm not. Pocket pairs come in combinations of 12 and pocket unpairs come in combinations of 32, so if his range is something like AK-AQ, AA-99, then he holds AK ~25% of the time (more probable than any other single holding). |
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[ QUOTE ] Also, why do you seem to auto-put the BB on AK so easily? [/ QUOTE ] I'm not. Pocket pairs come in combinations of 12 and pocket unpairs come in combinations of 32, so if his range is something like AK-AQ, AA-99, then he holds AK ~25% of the time (more probable than any other single holding). [/ QUOTE ] Right. From a mathematical standpoint. Given the preflop and flop action, however, BB having AK I start to discount completely, unless he is a complete donkey and is playing AK this way. After he re-raises your c/r on the flop, I'm thinking more AQ than AK, along with 88-JJ, KK-AA as the more likely holdings. |
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