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Old 11-14-2005, 03:55 PM
ANY2CARDZ ANY2CARDZ is offline
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Default Kq in the cut off,

Paradise 2-4 limit 10 handed
First orbit, no reads.
Villian raises UTG, folds around to Hero in the cutoff calls with Kc-Qh off, Blinds fold.
Flop is kd-5c-2c UTG bets, whats Hero's line from here on out?
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Old 11-14-2005, 03:58 PM
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Default Re: Kq in the cut off,

fold preflop.



As played, raise the flop and call down if 3-bet unless you spike a Q, in which you shoudl raise again.
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Old 11-14-2005, 04:10 PM
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Default Re: Kq in the cut off,

Under what conditions would you justify calling a raise with kq off?
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Old 11-14-2005, 04:13 PM
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Default Re: Kq in the cut off,

Fold pre-flop.

Now, just call his bets. If he checks, bet.
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Old 11-14-2005, 04:14 PM
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Default Re: Kq in the cut off,

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As played, raise the flop and call down if 3-bet unless you spike a Q, in which you shoudl raise again.

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Why should we raise this flop? I think its simpler to simply go wa/wb in position.
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Old 11-14-2005, 04:15 PM
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Default Re: Kq in the cut off,

Under what conditions would you justify calling a raise with kq off?

KQo, basically never. KQs maybe with lots of cold callers. Against a LAG or a late position raise by a TAG I would 3-bet it as opposed to cold-calling.

An UTG player is raising AJ+ ATs+ KJs+ 99+ or so. We're behind/dominated by the majority of his range.
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Old 11-14-2005, 04:17 PM
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Default Re: Kq in the cut off,

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Under what conditions would you justify calling a raise with kq off?

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In the BB to HJ/CO openraise. In the sb with a loose BB to a CO/Button openraise. Also, I 3-bet these situations a lot as well.

Otherwise if you think KQo is likely ahead of a villain's range than 3-bet. Cold calling with offsuit hands pretty much sucks.
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Old 11-14-2005, 04:17 PM
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Default Re: Kq in the cut off,

3 bet or fold, IMHO. Your off suit hand plays better heads up. Take the lead, drive the blinds out, or get out of the hand. With no read, probably muck it.
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Old 11-14-2005, 04:19 PM
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Default Re: Kq in the cut off,

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As played, raise the flop and call down if 3-bet unless you spike a Q, in which you shoudl raise again.

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Why should we raise this flop? I think its simpler to simply go wa/wb in position.

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Ahhh, good point. I change my answer: wa/wb.
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Old 11-14-2005, 04:38 PM
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Default Re: Kq in the cut off,

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Fold pre-flop.

Now, just call his bets. If he checks, bet.


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