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Old 09-10-2005, 07:20 PM
ahnuld ahnuld is offline
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Default Fold AA?

400nl on prima. Im semi tilting, and took my blinds off cause im about to leave. Table is full of donks. In the hand UTG could have anything. Maybe he has me but I think im ahead of him. Bigger concern is the CO. I pick up AA on the button with about 300 in chips. 3 limps, and I make it 24 to go. UTG limp calls (150 total) and co call (320).

Flop comes 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] there is 80 in pot. utg has about 130 left and is the bigger donk. I bet 50, expecting him to just go allin. He calls, CO calls.

Pot is 230. Turn brings the Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] I check, UTG goes allin for 80, then the CO is allin for 250. Call or fold.
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Old 09-10-2005, 08:22 PM
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Are you really the button or the small blind?
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Old 09-10-2005, 08:25 PM
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Default Im the BB

sorry, I was in the BB with AA not the button.
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Old 09-10-2005, 09:43 PM
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Default Re: Fold AA?

Why check the turn? If you had bet 60 or 65 on the flop instead, the turn is an easy push for something like 3/4-pot.
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Old 09-10-2005, 09:51 PM
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Default Re: Fold AA?

I may call this, simply because if the CO had a huge hand he'd simply call, and not come over the top. I'm in there I think.
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Old 09-10-2005, 10:11 PM
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Default Re: Fold AA?

You have to bet more on the flop - you know this though [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Call depends on your read on him. Could he have QT or J9? Or is a set the only thing that's likely beating you here? If it's the latter, you probably have to call. His all-in almost seems that he doesn't want you playing.

Ryan
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Old 09-11-2005, 12:43 AM
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Default Re: Fold AA?

Havent read it but if you have to ask the answer is yes. Pre flop never postflop more often than most people do in the end its only aces....
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Old 09-11-2005, 12:54 AM
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Default Re: Fold AA?

donk or bigger donk does not matter here. the short stack moves in on you here but this is not really your concern since you would call his all in if the CO folded right?

the CO's move on the pot is saying he wants it heads up. i call unless i have a read on him that he has the ability to make a play like this while wanting you in the pot. this is somewhat read dependant.

FWIW, you are behind a lot of very possible hands right now.
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Old 09-11-2005, 01:25 AM
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100% fold, for 2 reasons mainly

1: With the other players being "donks" makes it an easy law down as they are more likely to play terrible cards, eg (Q10, J9)ETC

2: With the 2nd player reraising all in on turn must either represent a straight or maybe trips as he is scared of the other player(s) making either a better straight or even a flush
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Old 09-11-2005, 01:34 AM
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Default Re: Fold AA?

[ QUOTE ]
1: With the other players being "donks" makes it an easy law down as they are more likely to play terrible cards, eg (Q10, J9)ETC


[/ QUOTE ]
"good players" can't have Q10, J9?
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