Some crazy hands from this guy...and then my hand against his...

cartoonsoldier · #1 09-23-2004, 02:03 AM

The last hand is mine. All the hands leading to it were won by the crazy maniac guy.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. MP1 posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 (poster) checks, MP2 folds, Hero folds, Button folds, SB raises, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 3-bets, MP1 folds, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (13 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls.

Turn: (8 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, SB folds, UTG calls.

River: (10 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 12 BB
Main Pot: 12 BB, between UTG and UTG+1. > Pot won by UTG+1 (12 BB).

Results in white below: 
UTG has 6d Ad (three of a kind, kings).
UTG+1 has Tc 4c (full house, kings full of fours).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins 12 BB. 

[censored], didn't I fold the same hand? I would have had a better chance of winning it on the turn too [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
lol..see ahead, more maniacy fun.

Some other hands from the same guy:

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 raises, MP2 calls, CO folds, Button folds, Hero folds, BB calls, UTG 3-bets, UTG+1 caps, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (20.40 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks.

Turn: (10.20 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls.

River: (12.20 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 checks, MP2 bets, MP1 folds.

Final Pot: 13.20 BB
Main Pot: 12.20 BB, won by MP2.
Pot 2: 1 BB, returned to MP2.

Results in white below: 
MP2 doesn't show.
Outcome: MP2 wins 13.20 BB. 

He showed cards: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG raises, MP calls, Button 3-bets, Hero folds, BB caps, UTG calls, MP calls, Button calls.

Flop: (16.40 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, MP bets, Button calls, BB calls, UTG folds.

Turn: (9.70 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, MP bets, Button calls, BB folds.

River: (11.70 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP bets, Button calls.

Final Pot: 13.70 BB
Main Pot: 13.70 BB, between MP and Button. > Pot won by MP (13.70 BB).

Results in white below: 
MP has Js 8c (flush, jack high).
Button has Ad Ah (one pair, aces).
Outcome: MP wins 13.70 BB. 

Well...atleast he had TP as per the flop this time [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Preflop: Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP raises, Button calls, SB folds, Hero folds, UTG calls.

Flop: (7.40 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, MP bets, Button raises, UTG folds, MP calls.

Turn: (5.70 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP checks, Button checks.

River: (5.70 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP checks, Button bets, MP calls.

Final Pot: 7.70 BB
Main Pot: 7.70 BB, between MP and Button. > Pot won by Button (7.70 BB).

Results in white below: 
MP has 7h 7d (two pair, sevens and threes).
Button has Ks 2c (two pair, kings and threes).
Outcome: Button wins 7.70 BB. 

5 handed, because people were busting out now and then at the table.

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 raises, MP2 folds, Hero calls, CO folds, Button 3-bets, SB folds, BB caps, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, Hero folds, Button calls.

Flop: (20.40 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets, UTG+2 calls, Button calls, BB calls.

Turn: (12.20 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, Button checks.

River: (12.20 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 12.20 BB
Main Pot: 12.20 BB, between BB, UTG+1, UTG+2, MP1 and Button. > Pot won by UTG+2 (12.20 BB).

Results in white below: 
BB has Qd Js (high card, ace).
UTG+1 has 6d 4c (one pair, fours).
UTG+2 has 5h Jd (one pair, fives).
MP1 has 8d Kc (high card, ace).
Button has Tc Kd (high card, ace).
Outcome: UTG+2 wins 12.20 BB. 

This was like my 3rd hand on the table.

Talk about someone getting lucky ? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Now my hand against him:

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG raises, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, Hero calls, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: (8.40 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, Hero calls, CO calls, BB calls.

Turn: (6.20 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, CO checks.

River: (6.20 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, Hero calls, CO folds, BB folds.

Final Pot: 8.20 BB
Main Pot: 8.20 BB, between UTG and Hero.

3-bet PF? No right? There were other Maniacs on the table and I didn't know what they were going to do.

On the flop, I honestly didn't know what he had, he could have had 23, JJ god knows. But I thought cold-calling all the way with just one overcard was not a bad idea.

Turn, well K, and 2 other players other than him, should I have bet it?

river call was easy.

Well...so after like 2 rounds I get this hand to play on the table...criticize away.

Boolean · #2 09-23-2004, 02:22 AM

I don't mean to be rude, but I just don't like this. I think your read is way off, and folding the AQs was just a disaster. I would 3bet it here, or at least call and see the flop. Your flush strength plus your high card strength is very, very nice. What could you be afraid of here?

Granted, the "maniac" has some very loose calling requirements preflop, but I don't see him making very many, or any for that matter, mistakes post-flop. Your read on him being a maniac is just not jusified IMO.

As far as the hand in question, there are two over cards to your pocket pair, one paired on the river, and all of the hands I've seen the "maniac" in, he's had a pair at least. Call, but expect to be shown a better hand. That's my opinion. I'd like to know what others think as well, because I'm very far away from being an expert.

cartoonsoldier · #3 09-23-2004, 02:29 AM

Ok, maybe his play postflop was not that bad in these hands, but PF he was crazy.

As far as the AQ hand goes, it comes back to me capped, 3rd hand of the day and you want me to call?

InchoateHand · #4 09-23-2004, 02:32 AM

Who cares what hand of the day.
AQs is a wonderful hand, significantly better than some of the hands your opponents will cap with, and due to its s00tedness, capable of dragging huge pots. Does everyone else in the pot have a better hand than AQs?

No. So they are subsidizing you.