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#1
11-03-2004, 11:27 AM
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AK vs. JJ
In Phil Hellmuth's book "Play Poker like the Pro's" he ranks the top ten hands. AA KK QQ AK JJ.... Regardless of suited versus unsuited, what would you prefer in your hand pre-flop? AK or JJ I personally prefer JJ over AK because you're starting with a pair and it's not necessarily a race or a coinflip. Ignoring pot-size, the limits, or any of that. What would you prefer pre-flop and why?
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#2
11-03-2004, 12:31 PM
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Re: AK vs. JJ
Personally, I think I'd rather take the AK. Not only could you flop a pair with a great kicker, you have a better chance of a straight than you do with JJ. With the JJ in this case, you would need to flop another J for a set if any comfort if an overcard hit the board. Of course, it would depend on how many opponents there are and if it's a tight or loose table.
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#4
11-03-2004, 01:16 PM
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Re: AK vs. JJ
Why not J-J? Wouldn't you rather have your opponent(s) drawing to beat you? Wouldn't you rather be, at least, a slight favorite (unless against Q-Q, K-K, or A-A)? I love A-K, so don't get me wrong, but this should not even be a question. The only advantages I see for A-K is that it plays better multi-way and is easier to get away from.
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#6
11-03-2004, 05:44 PM
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Re: AK vs. JJ
I prefer JJ over AK but only because of the metagame, not because its necessarily mathematically more powerful.
A lot of people will call your early position AK or JJ raise with small pocket pairs. They will definitely fold whenever they see an ace and will perhaps fold after calling a flop bet if they see a king (unless they hit a set in which case you are screwed). Otherwise they are calling you down. Being out of position and against players who make the mistake of automatically putting you on AK, I would go as far to say that AK has a negative EV against small pocket pairs. On the other hand, for these same reasons JJ gets paid off, especially when its set vs set.
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#7
11-03-2004, 06:04 PM
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Re: AK vs. JJ
I love AK. JJ is a lot more difficult to play and I think a lot easier to lose money with.
It also depends on whether you are facing any raises PF. Facing 3 bets with JJ isn't a lot of fun (unless you've got 4 or 5 to the flop and you hope to flop a set) and I'll cap AK in this situation every time.
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#8
11-03-2004, 06:16 PM
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Re: AK vs. JJ
[ QUOTE ]
Why not J-J? Wouldn't you rather have your opponent(s) drawing to beat you? Wouldn't you rather be, at least, a slight favorite (unless against Q-Q, K-K, or A-A)? I love A-K, so don't get me wrong, but this should not even be a question. The only advantages I see for A-K is that it plays better multi-way and is easier to get away from. [/ QUOTE ] Who are you? lol You're telling me that Phil Hellmuth is wrong in the AK over JJ rankings. ITs a post to see what you would prefer, by saying its not even a question is a direct insult to Hellmuth. It's about even as to what people would prefer...
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#9
11-03-2004, 06:17 PM
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Re: AK vs. JJ
Keep in mind Hellmuth is writing for beginners. Beginners might have a harder time getting off of a pocket pair, so he downgrades JJ to compensate.
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#10
11-03-2004, 08:07 PM
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Re: AK vs. JJ
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Who are you? lol You're telling me that Phil Hellmuth is wrong in the AK over JJ rankings. ITs a post to see what you would prefer, by saying its not even a question is a direct insult to Hellmuth. [/ QUOTE ] I weep for the trees that died to make Hellmuths book. And if you search these forums you will find much worse insults to Hellmuth than this. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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