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Old 09-27-2005, 10:45 PM
SlyGuy SlyGuy is offline
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Default Am I playing these right?

I am getting frustrated, to the point of wanting to give up the game for a while. After 12k hands of 3/6 SH I have a wopping winrate of .23BB/100 hands. I am trying not to whine too much, but I am feeling lost on so many hands right now.

Hand 1

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Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (3 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, Button calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

River: (5.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 5.50 BB

Hand 2

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Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, Button calls.

Flop: (9.33 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, BB calls.

Turn: (7.66 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, BB folds.

River: (9.66 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 9.66 BB

Hand 3

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.33 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (4.16 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (6.16 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 6.16 BB
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Old 09-27-2005, 10:51 PM
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Default Re: Am I playing these right?

Hand 1: I might not complete this in the sb @ 3/6. Rest of the hand looks fine

Hand 2: Fine

Hand 3: I call the flop and turn, and fold the river to a bet. I don't think any hand you beat bets the river if you take that line
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Old 09-27-2005, 11:31 PM
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Default Re: Am I playing these right?

I bet out on the flop in hand #1.

Hand #2 looks alright.

Just call down #3. He could be taking a stab at the pot, so let him keep bluffing. Otherwise, let him keep betting made hands. Often he'll have an Ace.
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Old 09-27-2005, 11:36 PM
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Default Re: Am I playing these right?

Hand 1: I'd Bet-3bet the flop and go from there. If he caps you can call down or if he's very passive predictable c/f the turn unimproved. As such I think you have to bet the river for value. any pair is calling you.

Hand 2: Reasonable. Sometimes you can bet the river for value but it's hard to imagine him callign with a worse hand.

Hand 3: Fine, whatever.
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Old 09-27-2005, 11:46 PM
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Hand 1: I lead the flop. You'd have to be pretty sure that there would be a late position bet to try a checkraise here. Your hand is vulnerable to a lot of overcards here. With only three people in this pot, I bet out. If there are more people in the pot I would like your checkraise better as you get to see the action behind you and you can also face the field with two cold from a late position better. With only three people here, I would lead.

If you led the flop and were called on the flop and again on the turn, I would bet the river. That way you get called by worse hands whereas if you check call in that situation you might induce a bluff but it is more likely that it will get checked behind, or, if it is bet, you will be calling with a second best hand.

Hand 2: I like it.

Hand 3: I don't think this is that bad here and it is also a play I typically make. I don't think you get a weak ace to fold however so it would be more profitable I believe to take a call/call/call(?) line with the river being read dependent. I would hardly ever fold to a river bet here, though (as mentioned in a previous post) as this person would probably continue betting a hand like KJ here on this river since you did not raise (it makes it appear as if you can't beat a pair of Aces).

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Old 09-27-2005, 11:56 PM
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Default Re: Am I playing these right?

[ QUOTE ]
Hand 1: I'd Bet-3bet the flop and go from there. If he caps you can call down or if he's very passive predictable c/f the turn unimproved. As such I think you have to bet the river for value. any pair is calling you.

Hand 2: Reasonable. Sometimes you can bet the river for value but it's hard to imagine him callign with a worse hand.

Hand 3: Fine, whatever.

[/ QUOTE ]


Hand 1) What do you think of the call preflop....pot is too small! I totally agree that he needs to bet the river.

I like the the way the other two hands were played.

PS: Nice meeting you on the PPM IV cruise. Are you planning for it the coming year? PM did not work for me for some reason.
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Old 09-28-2005, 12:00 AM
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Default Re: Am I playing these right?

I've had them not work for a couple people. I'm planning on trying but I went throuhg a nasty stretch of bad play/badluck and I'm still recovering. I'm definietly planning on hitting the sattelites hard though. You?


Also, I do agree that he should shold PF. I forget sometimes about the 1/3 blind structure at 3/6.
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Old 09-28-2005, 12:02 AM
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Default Re: Am I playing these right?

Hand 1: Bet flop.

Hand 2: Bet river for value against unknown.

Hand 3: Just call down.
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Old 09-28-2005, 12:42 AM
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I've had them not work for a couple people. I'm planning on trying but I went throuhg a nasty stretch of bad play/badluck and I'm still recovering. I'm definietly planning on hitting the sattelites hard though. You?

[/ QUOTE ]

I've tried a couple of sats so far but could not make it yet. But, I am planning on it, lets see. See you at the final table on the cruise though [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]. I'll try on the PM thing again.
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Old 09-28-2005, 12:59 AM
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Default Re: Am I playing these right?

River value bets in #1 and #2 should be automatic IMO. Don't forget, in SH people call you down a lot more liberally, so you need to bet your made hands AGGRESSIVELY!
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