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Old 10-23-2005, 04:02 AM
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Old 10-23-2005, 04:07 AM
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you're right, and I know i def. need to study more, but just try not to berate me. There's a difference between tough love and just punishment.
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Old 10-23-2005, 04:44 AM
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Default Re: Dealing with fish . Edit

[ QUOTE ]
you're right, and I know i def. need to study more, but just try not to berate me. There's a difference between tough love and just punishment.

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My aim wasn't to berate you. My goal was to cut the fluff and go str8 to the point. Especially when the thread starts to get a bit whiny.

I mentioned earlier that I thought you were well on the right track since you've made the effort already in some of the other strategy forums.

For instance, the fact you recognize when you are on tilt puts you ahead of many. However, that's not enough. You have to act on it in a +EV way. Which can mean quitting a session even though you are on a table full of morons.

I'd get even more involved. Keep responding to hand posts comparing your thoughts to theirs along with the reasoning behind your suggestions.

It's not an easy game. It's a tough, brutal and mean game where your edge isn't near as big as many would like to think.


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Old 10-23-2005, 05:30 AM
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Yeah, I know what you mean... I played some more tonight after I felt better and had a nice upswing, then quit when I started to feel tired and distracted by other things.

Hopefully this game will toughen me up a bit, I need it [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 10-27-2005, 03:23 AM
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Default Re: Dealing with fish

You played this hand terribly from the start.

(1) You can't play with only $2.25 on the table. When you have very little money, that's when you always get a huge hand and end up leaving money on the table.

(2) to be at $2.25 you must have been at the end of a bad run;

(3) preflop move is raise or fold under the gun with kjo. With this many people in the hand, you will lose much of the time with kjo.

(4) even if you were on tilt, you absolutely must chip in your last quarter. In fact, someone truly on tilt would have automatically done so here. Pot equity absolutely demanded that you go all in. Your failure to do so indicates lack of understanding of the fundamentals of poker. (See Ed Miller's Post "I think my biggest leak is ..." http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...?Number=862129 ).

Sorry, but you asked.
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Old 10-28-2005, 05:05 AM
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and I already got a million responses stating that already.

also I was only in for the minimum, $5.
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Old 10-28-2005, 05:17 AM
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"Dealing with fish"

So you mean dealing with people like yourself?

You're the donkey in this hand.
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Old 10-28-2005, 11:45 AM
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why would you ever buyin for 5 dollars at a .5/1 table? i don't usually like being nasty but ...you might be the fish. learn about pot odds. fold the hand UTG....get off tilt...
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Old 10-28-2005, 12:05 PM
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Default Re: Dealing with fish

Fish plus: bigger pots when you win
Fish minus: more bad beats.

The bigger pots when your KK holds up make up for the suckouts.

This hand was a real lousy example of the beats you are complaining about. You had KJ against 33 and A9. You were in 3rd place pre-flop.
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