How much of a difference does being suited make HU?

[kurosh]

Disagreement on IRC.

TAG UTG raises. Do you call with KTs in the BB? Do you call with KTo? Is there much of a difference?

TAG button raises. Is there much of a difference between 76s or 76o?

Are there any hands you would defend with from the BB against a button raise, that are suited, that you wouldn't defend with if they were unsuited?

Does an UTG raise make being suited more important than a button raise?

[Subfallen]

Enough of a difference that AJs has better equity against a random hand than AKo. Does that answer your question?

[kiddo]

When UTG raise and u defend in BB its not really a HU-match like when SB raises and u are sitting in BB. UTG normally got a great hand so u will normally be well paid when u hit your flush. Against SB raise a small pair will be enough more often. That said, against UTGraise its important to not be dominated. I prefer T9o instead of K5s. But against a stealraise I would think K5s works just as well, if not better (I will win unimproved more often).

I would defend against UTG raise with Axs but not below A7o if he got normal standards (say PFR 16%). I would defend with 54s but probably not 76o (well...).

[MAxx]

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I would defend against UTG raise with Axs but not below A7o if he got normal standards (say PFR 16%). I would defend with 54s but probably not 76o (well...).

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I don't really understand the 54s defense from an UTG raise. Don't you want about 5-1 for you possibility to flop a flush draw or OPESD. you could pair a four or five, but that is not really all that desireable. What's your thoughts on this?

[Stack]

I think pairing a 4 or 5 isn't all that bad since utg will most likely show down his big aces. Not that it will be easy to play, but it does add some extra value to your hand which is connected and suited.

[cartman]

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I don't really understand the 54s defense from an UTG raise. Don't you want about 5-1 for you possibility to flop a flush draw or OPESD. you could pair a four or five, but that is not really all that desireable. What's your thoughts on this?

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I can be more confident that a low flop misses an UTG raise and so I think it is often quite desirable fo flop a pair of 4's or 5's. I defend with any two suited against a raise from any position and the worst offsuit hands after over 200K hands appear to be worth almost exactly the same as folding--no better and no worse. The offsuit indifference point appears to be around "any two 9 or higher", although I vary my criteria on these more according to the position of the raiser than I do the suited hands. (I may fold JT to an UTG raise but call T8 versus a button raise).

Cartman

[MAxx]

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I can be more confident that a low flop misses an UTG raise and so I think it is often quite desirable fo flop a pair of 4's or 5's.

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this is true, and this is a good scenario... usually. however, sometimes you will be up against a pp. you will also get draw out on somtimes with your weak made hand.

you will also pair some scary flops, which you will have you not collect very much when you win and you make some questionable payoffs/ folds.

just some considerations when playing a weakhand.

[redbeard]

i am quite clueless on what to defend my blinds with versus raises from various positions. i use a blanket defense of any two suited card, any pair, and any two cards 9 or higher from the big blind (from the sb i three bet w A7s, ATo, KTs, KJo, and 77+ versus a lone raiser) no matter from which position the raise came. can someone assist me as to the best way to defend my blinds from various positional raises in general terms versus a typical player (ie not being player read specific). thanks.

[kiddo]

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I don't really understand the 54s defense from an UTG raise. Don't you want about 5-1 for you possibility to flop a flush draw or OPESD. you could pair a four or five, but that is not really all that desireable. What's your thoughts on this?

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Are u defending against UTGraise from BB with small pairs like 77-22? I guess u do? (at least 44 and up?)

Do u automatically give up if u dont hit a set on flop?

I guess not?

Small pairs are pretty ok against UTG raise because if flop is all rags (below T) u are ahead more often then not. With 1 high card its tricky and with 2 its good time to bet and fold if raised (or even checkfold, even if that is a bit weak).

[rory]

I'm not a big fan of defending with hands like 22 and 33. Too hard to play postflop.