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#12
10-07-2005, 07:50 PM
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Re: Late short-stack play, OK?
Don't panic!!!
Many a MTT has been won by a player who had 3-4 BB late. Wait for a decent hand in good position. Your position is soooo much more important than your cards at this point. The difference berween pushing J9 over two people and trying to run KQ through nine people is HUGE! 
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#13
10-07-2005, 08:04 PM
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Re: Late short-stack play, OK?
I had a similar instance in my tournament with QJ. I have 7,000 exact and the blinds are moving to 1,000-2,000 next hand. The table has been playing pretty passively at this point. We are in the money and there are 75 people left (started with 1,300). I'm an UTG. Fold or push?
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#14
10-07-2005, 08:28 PM
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Re: Late short-stack play, OK?
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Wait for the blinds to go up. Then you can push. [/ QUOTE ] HOH2 also advocates this but I'm not quite convinced. Let's say blinds went up this hand and he is looking at 400/800/75. Comparing the 2, a fold in both spots is exactly the same, taking out the clock is ticking factor. A push at the higher level has lower FE but is a bigger steal. So does the risk reward ratio change that much? Especially if you factor in that many might not notice that the level is up and give even greater folding equity?
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#15
10-07-2005, 08:40 PM
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Re: Late short-stack play, OK?
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[ QUOTE ] Wait for the blinds to go up. Then you can push. [/ QUOTE ] HOH2 also advocates this but I'm not quite convinced. Let's say blinds went up this hand and he is looking at 400/800/75. [/ QUOTE ] Pushing UTG with KJo is such a bad play that increasing the blinds somewhat will not make it a good play. But he would be able to push a lot more with a better hand or better position.
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#16
10-07-2005, 08:54 PM
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Re: Late short-stack play, OK?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Wait for the blinds to go up. Then you can push. [/ QUOTE ] HOH2 also advocates this but I'm not quite convinced. Let's say blinds went up this hand and he is looking at 400/800/75. [/ QUOTE ] Pushing UTG with KJo is such a bad play that increasing the blinds somewhat will not make it a good play. But he would be able to push a lot more with a better hand or better position. [/ QUOTE ] Sorry, I misunderstood you're post. I thought you were advocating a push in this spot after the blinds go up.
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#17
10-07-2005, 09:13 PM
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Re: Late short-stack play, OK?
Pushing with KJ isn't *terrible*, but it's definitely a borderline decision. It depends more on the tightness of your opponents and the chance they have a hand to call you with-- I don't know the answer to be honest; it would require an analysis of ranges and likelihoods of hands in that range appearing.
[ QUOTE ] I had a similar instance in my tournament with QJ. I have 7,000 exact and the blinds are moving to 1,000-2,000 next hand. The table has been playing pretty passively at this point. We are in the money and there are 75 people left (started with 1,300). I'm an UTG. Fold or push? [/ QUOTE ] What are the blinds now? Actually, I probably push regardless. But your situation is much more desperate than the OP's. Plus your table is passive.
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#18
10-07-2005, 09:40 PM
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Re: Late short-stack play, OK?
I know the rule of thumb about the number of BBs you need before you make a push with anything, but I'm not sold on it. You still have 5300 plus if you fold the next 3 hands. You could easily pick
A) a better hand B) the blinds twice by folding this hand.
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