Standard?

Jazza · #1 08-10-2005, 08:25 PM

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (10 handed) converter

saw flop|saw showdown

Button ($216.35)
SB ($56.10)
BB ($141.15)
UTG ($85)
UTG+1 ($195.40)
Hero ($198)
MP1 ($114.80)
MP2 ($302.60)
MP3 ($230.95)
CO ($111.15)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $2, Hero raises to $9, 7 folds, UTG+1 raises to $30, Hero calls $21.

Flop: ($63) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $63, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $126

villian is 40/0 after 30 hands

i was planning on goin to the felt on a non-A non-Q flop, does this sound right?

Macquarie · #2 08-10-2005, 08:31 PM

Limp-reraise from a guy with 40/0 stats? Can this really be QQ? I think you are splitting or in big trouble here. Is this a laydown preflop?

Pity you didn't have a few more hands for your stats - if this guy was really only a few percent raiser, you have to consider laying this down.

Jazza · #3 08-10-2005, 08:33 PM

well, if this is true than i can play it for set value, yeah?

Macquarie · #4 08-10-2005, 08:41 PM

Paying $20 for the chance of hitting the set, you have to be certain he will pay you off his whole stack when you hit. You're right though - he probably can't get away post flop.

Jazza · #5 08-10-2005, 08:45 PM

yeah, he can't be sure i don't have AK and will pay off probably

so i guess the real question is do i check/fold a T73r flop

Macquarie · #6 08-10-2005, 08:57 PM

Well, now I've correctly called preflop, I think I would certainly fold if bet to on any non-king flop. It would be odd if he checked to you. I'd probably check behind.

#7 08-10-2005, 08:58 PM

A raise from your right is either a re-raise or fold. The 5-10 % rule by Ciaffone would indicate a clear fold.So without clear tells etc.,I would be inclined to fold.

Jazza · #8 08-10-2005, 09:04 PM

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The 5-10 % rule by Ciaffone would indicate a clear fold.

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what's the rule

Macquarie · #9 08-10-2005, 10:02 PM

5/10 rule is that you should call a raise with speculative hands if the price is less that 5% of your opponents stack (or your stack if you do not cover). You should fold if price is greater than 10%.

In this case, the price is almost exactly 10% of what we stand to win if we stack the opponent. This is a special case though - we are not trying to spike a set against a raiser who might have a mediocre hand and so might not pay us off when we hit; we can be unusually confident here that we will get paid off.

In fact, we need only 7:1 for a set, and if we stack villain we are getting 10:1, so we actually only need to stack villain two times of each three we hit a set to make the call +EV. Sounds likely.

Jazza · #10 08-10-2005, 10:04 PM

this is what i was thinking, but i thought i had the rule wrong or something