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Re: Normally I\'d Call But I Call Down Too Much
this is almost always AK. I always call the raise wen I c/call c/call bet agaiinst unknowns, but with a read this fold is not "atrocious". a typical 2/4 TAG isnt going to be bluff raising KQ or QQ here.
if we were talking a tough table against a tricky player that could have TT hoping to fold out your KK/A9s then you have to be calling the raise more |
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Re: Normally I\'d Call But I Call Down Too Much
I'm still a bit confused but I guess I need to call more.
From reading all the SS posts I've found that I go to showdown to often with hands I shouldn't be. I guess this isn't a spot to fold. |
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Re: Normally I\'d Call But I Call Down Too Much
I would be tempted to check raise the flop, and bet/fold the turn. I can see a TAG playing KK/QQ like this since you've shown no aggression.
I would put him on KK, and that he thinks you have QQ since the UTG raise and no cap pf, and no aggression throughout the hand. Against the raise on the river, I think I would call and cry when he turns over AK-AJs. Is there less than 10% chance he has KK/QQ? Why don't we check/call the river for a showdown instead? |
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Re: Normally I\'d Call But I Call Down Too Much
I didn't want to let villain check behind should he have KK or QQ.
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CDC's favorite worthy cc,cc,bet topic has him saying he generally calls a river raise.
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Re: Normally I\'d Call But I Call Down Too Much
Does the check/call, check/call, bet/fold line feel like I'm giving up the whole pot in an attempt to squeeze out an extra bet?
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Re: Normally I\'d Call But I Call Down Too Much
I do not understand why you would "almost always lose in this spot". The hero hit the set, there is no flush or straight possibility. You said that your opponent seemed to be TAG, so he probably would not be 3-betting 55, 66, A5 or A6. Even if he has JJ or a better Ace, you should call if it's only one bet in this reasonably nice pot. I do not understand why you would fold when you just made trips. Why even bother going to the river if you are going to fold even when you make your hand?
To me this looks like the villain had TT-AA, or AJ-AK. (according to your reads). You checked on the flop and the turn, indicating weakness. I would personally have bet into you since most people would bet when they have top pair on a ragged flop, and that is probably what the villain did as well. You may be beat, but since you've already called down to the river, why not just throw in one more BB to find out? |
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Re: Normally I\'d Call But I Call Down Too Much
Given your read and the play of the hand I would have check-called on the end.
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Re: Normally I\'d Call But I Call Down Too Much
when a 2/4 tight player raises the river, IMO TT-KK become far less likely
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Re: Normally I\'d Call But I Call Down Too Much
I would say this could be a good fold at 15/30 or 30/60 vs a very good player that you know very well. I would not fold this at a 2/4 game though.
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