Stuck in the middle with AK

private joker · #1 11-04-2005, 09:19 PM

SB is a whatever kinda player. The only time I've confronted him, just a few hands ago, I raised PF with AK, he called with AT, bet into me on a A77 flop, and I popped him on the turn and he called me down. He's probably upset with me.

CO is an aggressive/thinking player.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises, 3 folds, CO 3-bets, 1 fold, SB caps, 1 fold, Hero calls, CO calls.

Flop: (13 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, CO calls.

Turn: (8 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, CO calls.

River: (11 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, Hero folds...

Duffman · #2 11-04-2005, 09:22 PM

I like it.

Nick C · #3 11-04-2005, 09:33 PM

I might give up on the turn.

You're probably behind, and there's a good chance you're drawing to a chop with CO. If so, that's 4 outs to a chop, or effectively 2 outs.

If, instead, CO is waiting to pop the turn behind you, well, it's not going to be much fun to pay 2 BBs to get to the river when you might be drawing dead, and folding a potential 6 outs for one more bet (if it gets raised behind you) wouldn't be much fun either.

private joker · #4 11-04-2005, 09:38 PM

Well, I'm folding to a turn raise -- but if I'm drawing, I think I have 6 clean outs because CO is either calling with some sort of PP. But you're right, if he has AK/AQ, I'm chopping a lot.

toss · #5 11-04-2005, 09:42 PM

I also want to fold the turn because you and CO may be sharing outs. SB may also have you drawing slim or dead.

El Ishmael · #6 11-04-2005, 09:48 PM

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but if I'm drawing, I think I have 6 clean outs

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Not the times SB has AA/KK, which is probably a good ~30% of the time.

bobhalford · #7 11-05-2005, 12:59 PM

I fold the turn here because of the possibility of it getting raised behind you and also because you may be beat or may have to chop if an A or K hits.

Borodog · #8 11-05-2005, 02:07 PM

I don't like it at all. You have the best hand here never, don't know how many outs you have, if any at all, can get raised behind you, etc.

mowz · #9 11-05-2005, 02:12 PM

You will be drawing to tainted outs enough to make this a turn fold IMO.

Fishlips_Jones · #10 11-05-2005, 03:10 PM

Given your reads, CO could easily have a small pair when he reraises you preflop; and SB could have anything, but probably some suited broadways most likely.

Post flop, your AK is marginal. Fold or raise seems right to me. I would lean towards raising the flop bet by SB, and fold to aggression...but I would call if it was just one back to me. Maybe ( I would strongly suspect AA or KK to be out against me).

Maybe the pot's too big to fold?

Fishlips