How sweet it is...

Fishlips_Jones · #1 10-04-2005, 02:47 AM

This was about hand # 80 in the session. BB and Cutoff have been with me for about 50 hands. They had a line on my play and as yet I hadn't deviated from the TAG line.

The previous 15-20 hands though, these guys were giving me some heat when I'd raise preflop and if the flop looked like it'd missed my 'type' of starting cards. I was getting bit peeved and then...

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO calls, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB 3-bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (18.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 players)
BB bets, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls, CO calls, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, MP2 calls, CO caps, Hero calls, BB calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (17.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB bets, MP2 folds, CO calls, Hero raises, BB calls, CO calls.

River: (23.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets, CO folds, Hero raises, BB calls.

Final Pot: 27.25 BB

BB and CO left the table two hands later.

Fishlips

hobbsmann · #2 10-04-2005, 03:06 AM

don't raise preflop.

thesharpie · #3 10-04-2005, 03:07 AM

Die.

MyTurn2Raise · #4 10-04-2005, 04:52 AM

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don't raise preflop.

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I like the raise preflop. There was a discussion on this about a month ago and I believe I was in the minority opinion.

Why I like to raise here:
1) You have position.
2) Your hand is going to be better than 1 in 6 to win, unless someone has your suit covered. In that scenario, the chances of you hitting a flush are less, so it's less likely to cost bets.
3) It adds a bit of deception. You cannot always raise big cards. This might be a slightly negative ev (I'm not conceding that yet) play on this hand for a positive ev overall image.
4) It gets out blind hands like K6 and such that might hit a better 2-pair.

Scuba Chuck · #5 10-04-2005, 04:58 AM

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don't raise preflop.

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Query. Given hero's table history/image and analysis, doesn't raising further disguise his hand here, which is obviously easy to get away from postflop?

private joker · #6 10-04-2005, 04:58 AM

Good job flopping the nuts. How did you do that? Is it in a book somewhere? Also, way to send the two biggest LAG-fish at the table packing.

ncboiler · #7 10-04-2005, 07:06 AM

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don't raise preflop.

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Query. Given hero's table history/image and analysis, doesn't raising further disguise his hand here, which is obviously easy to get away from postflop?

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I think raising the flop was pretty much the point here. He wanted to change his table image and he was willing to pay two SB to do it.

thesharpie · #8 10-04-2005, 07:16 AM

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He wanted to change his table image and he was willing to pay a fraction of a sb to do it.

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