QQ One overcard, multiway

[Fishlips_Jones]

While it's possible no one has a King, my money is one someone having a King. I then play accordingly.


Fishlips

[Felipe]

blindpost...

I would have played it the same.

I raise JJ from SB with many limpers, because I expect to win more than 1 in 7 times. I lead every street when not shown any aggression. I'm probably done on the river though, so a ck/call might be alright.

I don't check the turn. Someone may have just picked up a good draw (6+ outs), and i don't want to give away money (free cards). If I'm behind - I can't be sure. There is *NO* sign whatsoever that I am. If i am ahead, i *MUST* bet. So betting is right.

thoughts..

[Felipe]

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While it's possible no one has a King, my money is one someone having a King. I then play accordingly.


Fishlips

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No offence - i think that is bad poker.

Like 3 betting somebody preflop with AKo. flop is K 6 5. He checkraises me. That doesn't mean he's got AA, or KK, He could have KJ, or KQ, or K5. I've got lots of outs to beat K5. Don't get scared of the worst, cause you will miss bets.

[cfjr2]

I like this line,
But what about the slightly more aggressive Turn Check / Raise line.
It may fold a weak K and, if not a re-raise will tell you you're beat. If the raise is called you check / fold on the river since no sane non-K hand is betting into another possible Check Raise. Costs same 2 bets but has better chance of success in many cases.

[J. Stew]

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Lets see .....

From the BB, JJ I'm raising 93% of the time and it's winning 2.38BB per hand. That's pretty darn good.
From the SB, JJ I'm raising 92% of the time but it's win rate is 0.53. Not as good certainly, but not bad.

Learn to detach yourself from past results. Play good poker.

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I'm raising jacks with one, two or maybe three limpers from the small and big blinds, but with five already in that sucks to play a low premium pair oop with an over as was evident by my original post I think. With Jacks, an over coming on the flop is more likely than with QQ which is why
SSHE says limp (or complete/check) with jacks if the pot's already multiway. This is the info I've been playin' on, anyone disagree?

[J. Stew]

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If you dont bet you dont even have a chance of knowing where you are as a late position better might bet w/ 2nd pair. You played it fine. And btw about those jacks completing, wrong, raise em up everytime, you want ppl in so when you hit your set you make INF $$$

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Should I be raising with fives then as well, and twos?!

[adsman]

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With Jacks, an over coming on the flop is more likely than with QQ which is why
SSHE says limp (or complete/check) with jacks if the pot's already multiway. This is the info I've been playin' on, anyone disagree?

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Where on earth does it say that?

[Taxmanrick]

I agree w/ this line....no one shows any aggression, I still think I'm best. I'm betting out.

[J. Stew]

I guess I'm spacin', the hand quizzes in the back talk about jacks and back up your point. Hmmm, I swear I read something about Jacks like that, HEFAP maybe? Sounds like I need to raise jax more, thanks.

[SlantNGo]

Problem is, if it's re-raised, we're probably getting good odds to call to hit a set on the river. So we end up putting in 3 bets. The only way I'd re-raise is if I thought that the bettor isn't betting a King, and that I'd fold a King, which isn't often IMO.

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It may fold a weak K and, if not a re-raise will tell you you're beat.

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