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Old 11-28-2005, 05:59 PM
mscags mscags is offline
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Default Top Pair with more action on the turn then I want...

Villian is 64/14/.67 over about 75 hands. Whats my turn play? Anyone just bet out this flop?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, Button calls.

Flop: (9 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero...
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Old 11-28-2005, 06:05 PM
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Default Re: Top Pair with more action on the turn then I want...

I can't see not betting out on the flop. If for some reason I didn't I would call the turn, hoping to induce a loose call from button and keep sb in till the river.
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Old 11-28-2005, 06:08 PM
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Default Re: Top Pair with more action on the turn then I want...

I thought that there was a good chance that the button would bet and then I could checkraise.
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Old 11-28-2005, 06:09 PM
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Default Re: Top Pair with more action on the turn then I want...

why? Button could easily not have an ace and sb's 3bet and flop-check is scary.
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Old 11-28-2005, 06:10 PM
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Default Re: Top Pair with more action on the turn then I want...

Cap preflop. Bet the flop. Why did you think the villian would bet the flop after being three bet?
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Old 11-28-2005, 06:47 PM
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Default Re: Top Pair with more action on the turn then I want...

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Cap preflop. Bet the flop.

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Preflop you very likely have the best hand. Perfect time to punish button by making him pay 2 more to see the flop with his stealraise-(ie possibly crap)hand. Nice flop for you so bet or raise if SB bets.

Anyway the way you played it I call down from the turn checkraise. Too good to fold even though when you get checkraised by this fairly passive player he probably has you beat...
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Old 11-28-2005, 06:48 PM
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1. I think there is good value to capping preflop against a button who will steal light, and a SB who will isolate light.

2. I'd bet this flop 100% of the time. You should not be looking to checkraise this flop.

3. I would call down against all but the most passive opponents.
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Old 11-28-2005, 06:52 PM
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Default Re: Top Pair with more action on the turn then I want...

ez, ez cap preflop.

ez flop bet.
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Old 11-28-2005, 07:47 PM
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Default Re: Top Pair with more action on the turn then I want...

Just reiterating... cap preflop, bet the flop.

On the turn, it sure looks like he was slowplaying a monster, and I am guessing you are probably behind. That said, he could potentially have something worse, so I call down, but expect to lose. I would have just called the turn, hoping he got scared of the A, and is now betting his high PP. Then I probably raise the river.
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Old 11-28-2005, 07:59 PM
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Thanks for all of the help everyone. Looking back i agree that I should have capped preflop and just lead and it would have made this hand a lot easier to play.

Anyway, I called villian down and he showed AA

Scags
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