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Old 08-17-2005, 02:15 AM
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Default Low Pockets out of position vs. pre-flop raiser...

I felt that the turn bet on the two was a little strange...thought he was trying to take the pot away from me, unless he had checked a big ace on the flop (or big pair, fearing an ace).

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+2 checks.

Turn: (2.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+2 calls.

River: (6.75 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+2 calls.

Final Pot: 8.75 BB
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Old 08-17-2005, 02:17 AM
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Default Re: Low Pockets out of position vs. pre-flop raiser...

Check fold the turn. Even if you are ahead, there are at least 6 cards that will help him. If you are behind, you are only going to lose more bets. The pot is small.
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Old 08-17-2005, 02:18 AM
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Default Re: Low Pockets out of position vs. pre-flop raiser...

Without a good read on villain, I check/fold every street.
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Old 08-17-2005, 02:19 AM
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Default Re: Low Pockets out of position vs. pre-flop raiser...

Fold it everytime.
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Old 08-17-2005, 02:20 AM
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Default Re: Low Pockets out of position vs. pre-flop raiser...

Why else would he check the flop and call a turn raise on a blank unless he totally missed the flop?
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Old 08-17-2005, 02:22 AM
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Default Re: Low Pockets out of position vs. pre-flop raiser...

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Why else would he check the flop and call a turn raise on a blank unless he totally missed the flop?

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Because he's playing 99-KK like a little girl.
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Old 08-17-2005, 02:22 AM
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Default Re: Low Pockets out of position vs. pre-flop raiser...

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Why else would he check the flop and call a turn raise on a blank unless he totally missed the flop?

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TT, JJ, QQ, KK and slowplayed 99 and AA all come to mind.
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Old 08-17-2005, 02:24 AM
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Default Re: Low Pockets out of position vs. pre-flop raiser...

Or he's playing KTs like a loose calling station...
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Old 08-17-2005, 02:29 AM
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Default Re: Low Pockets out of position vs. pre-flop raiser...

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Or he's playing KTs like a loose calling station...

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If you are basing the quality of your play on the fact that he did indeed have KT, then you are making a fundamental error. Results have a way of clouding our thinking so that we assume that we should always do the same thing in that situation. There are many more times when he will have something that beats you and you will lose bets. The posters here are giving you advice based on theory, not on the fact that he MIGHT be calling down with K high UI. I think you made 2 fundamental mistakes in this hand.

Smaller of the 2: calling pf
Bigger of the 2 : doing anything other then check folding

Ya you won, but continue to play like this, and you will hemmorage a lot of chips.
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Old 08-17-2005, 02:34 AM
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Default Re: Low Pockets out of position vs. pre-flop raiser...

To any flop action, I'm folding. But the way he played that hand indicated, to me at least, that he missed it. I didn't have a read on him, but most raisers who hit a flop will bet at it.
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