What is the Generally Acknowledge BB/hr Win Rate for Online Pros

Joeflex · #1 10-27-2005, 07:54 PM

Hey fellas

Yes I did the search, didn't come up with anything in the last year.

I know the Sklansky/Malmuth position was always a big bet per hour or 1 1/2 bets an hour for a B&M pro. What was the equivalent of this for an online game in limit poker? Just wanted a quick ballpark reference. Thanks.

Joeflex

Adde · #2 10-27-2005, 08:00 PM

Stake dependent. At 2/4 I'd say 2.0-2.5 BB/100 is doable and not that shabby.

Adde

Schwartzy61 · #3 10-27-2005, 08:05 PM

Micros (up to 1/2) 3BB/100

Small stakes (2/4 to 5/10???) around 2BB/100

Higher Stakes anything around 1BB/100 should be considered a success...

#4 10-27-2005, 09:38 PM

online you'll notice everyone charts their bets in hands. Some people can play up to 400 hands an hour, while some people play as little as 60. At 1/2 and 2/4 i average about 3BB/100 hands and it's enough to live off. For me that's about 9 or 10BB an hour at 1/2. I don't play as many tables at 2/4 so my hourly rate is basically the same.

Webster · #5 10-27-2005, 11:39 PM

remember only 10% of all players are break even players.

Most good players are in the 1.50BB/100

Every person should strive for 2.00BB/100.

Very good players are in the 2.5BB/100 - rare

Expert players are 3BB/100 and they are very very very few

at 3/6 and below

if someone told me they were 3BB/100 I would not believe them (sorry betadecay). It's not that I think they are lieing but it's just pretty freaking rare over 100,000 hands.

But SOMEBODY has to do it I suppose LOL.

#6 10-28-2005, 12:28 AM

Wow, I just started interacting with other poker players. I thought this was common at 1/2. I have been considering going to 5/10 soon. I guess it's encouraging you think I'm lying. I tried to cut and paste my PT screen but I don't know how to take a screenshot or paste pics.

I just checked my PT. I am 2.85BB/100 since the 14th of this month (recently got PT). Logged over 26,000 hands. At 16K hands i was at 3.4. At the current rate, I would assume my bb/100 will fluctuate between those 2 numbers before evening out at about 3bb/100. There are a handful of other players I have logged over 10k hands on that are above the 2.5 mark.

obsidian · #7 10-28-2005, 12:34 AM

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Wow, I just started interacting with other poker players. I thought this was common at 1/2. I have been considering going to 5/10 soon. I guess it's encouraging you think I'm lying. I tried to cut and paste my PT screen but I don't know how to take a screenshot or paste pics.

I just checked my PT. I am 2.85BB/100 since the 14th of this month (recently got PT). Logged over 26,000 hands. At 16K hands i was at 3.4. At the current rate, I would assume my bb/100 will fluctuate between those 2 numbers before evening out at about 3bb/100. There are a handful of other players I have logged over 10k hands on that are above the 2.5 mark.

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You are overestimating your sample size. It takes well over 100k hands before your winrate gets close to converging.

#8 10-28-2005, 10:10 AM

One thing to keep in mind when reading about people's bb/100 winrates is that there are varying degrees of multitabling going on.

The guy who is playing 8 tables at a time is going to have a much lower bb/100 winrate than the guy playing only one table. I also think that those who play lots of tables at once greatly underestimate the amount of edge over others that they're losing by playing so many tables. They think they're only losing maybe .5 or 1BB/100, they're probably losing a lot more versus someone who only plays one table.

Hoopster81 · #9 10-28-2005, 04:36 PM

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The guy who is playing 8 tables at a time is going to have a much lower bb/100 winrate than the guy playing only one table. I also think that those who play lots of tables at once greatly underestimate the amount of edge over others that they're losing by playing so many tables. They think they're only losing maybe .5 or 1BB/100, they're probably losing a lot more versus someone who only plays one table.

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But they play so many more hands/hour that it compensates

MyTurn2Raise · #10 10-28-2005, 07:04 PM

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One thing to keep in mind when reading about people's bb/100 winrates is that there are varying degrees of multitabling going on.

The guy who is playing 8 tables at a time is going to have a much lower bb/100 winrate than the guy playing only one table. I also think that those who play lots of tables at once greatly underestimate the amount of edge over others that they're losing by playing so many tables. They think they're only losing maybe .5 or 1BB/100, they're probably losing a lot more versus someone who only plays one table.

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Very true... When I 3-table or less, I run at >2.0BB/100 at 2/4. When 8 tabling, I'm lucky to reach above 1.0, but steadily hit at 0.7. Sometimes, the bonuses are just so good that I have to do it though.