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Old 11-11-2005, 05:02 PM
Ribbo Ribbo is offline
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Default But I have the button! I have to bet the flop!

Didn't expect to see that at showdown....

***** Hand History for Game 3020015003 *****
$200 PL Omaha Hi/Lo - Friday, November 11, 15:59:01 EDT 2005
Table Table 65493 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: tricky1010 ( $338.64 )
Seat 2: intimadater9 ( $174.13 )
Seat 3: BorisBadnoff ( $277 )
Seat 4: ca2step ( $224.55 )
Seat 5: Ellicious ( $573.84 )
Seat 6: Ribbo ( $227.35 )
Seat 8: dfg11 ( $182.75 )
Seat 9: chessie_cat ( $466.44 )
Seat 10: ashleya ( $194.20 )
Seat 7: chillag ( $200 )
Ribbo posts small blind [$1].
>You have options at Table 64697 Table!.
chillag posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Ribbo [ Ac As 8s 5c ]
>You have options at Table 64699 (No DP) Table!.
dfg11 folds.
chessie_cat calls [$2].
ashleya folds.
tricky1010 folds.
intimadater9 folds.
BorisBadnoff folds.
>You have options at Table 69016 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Table 64699 (No DP) Table!.
ca2step raises [$4].
Ellicious calls [$4].
>You have options at Table 64699 (No DP) Table!.
Ribbo raises [$19].
chillag folds.
>You have options at Table 64697 Table!.
chessie_cat calls [$18].
>You have options at Table 69082 (No DP) Table!.
ca2step calls [$16].
Ellicious calls [$16].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5s, Tc, Jd ]
Ribbo checks.
>You have options at Table 69016 (No DP) Table!.
chessie_cat checks.
ca2step checks.
Ellicious bets [$65].
Ribbo calls [$65].
>You have options at Table 69016 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Table 64699 (No DP) Table!.
chessie_cat folds.
ca2step calls [$65].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3c ]
Ribbo is all-In [$142.35]
>You have options at Table 64699 (No DP) Table!.
ca2step folds.
>You have options at Table 64697 Table!.
Ellicious calls [$142.35].
** Dealing River ** [ 6h ]
Ribbo shows [ Ac, As, 8s, 5c ] a pair of aces.
Ribbo shows 8,6,5,3,A for low.
Ellicious shows [ 2s, Qc, 6c, 3d ] two pairs, sixes and threes.
Ellicious wins $279.35 from the main pot with two pairs, sixes and threes.
Ribbo wins Lo ($279.35) from the main pot with 8,6,5,3,A.
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Old 11-11-2005, 05:21 PM
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Default Re: But I have the button! I have to bet the flop!

Just be happy that a 3, Q or non-club 4 didn't fall on the river.
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Old 11-11-2005, 05:46 PM
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Default Re: But I have the button! I have to bet the flop!

Is this the wave of future HH's to come?

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>You have options at Table 64697 (No DP) Table!.


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>You have options at Table 64699 (No DP) Table!.


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>You have options at Table 69016 (No DP) Table!.


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>You have options at Table 64699 (No DP) Table!.


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>You have options at Table 64699 (No DP) Table!.


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>You have options at Table 64697 (No DP) Table!.


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>You have options at Table 69082 (No DP) Table!.


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>You have options at Table 69016 (No DP) Table!.


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>You have options at Table 64699 (No DP) Table!.


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Old 11-11-2005, 07:15 PM
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Default Re: But I have the button! I have to bet the flop!

sucks how they stick that stuff in the hand history.
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Old 11-11-2005, 07:37 PM
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Default Re: But I have the button! I have to bet the flop!

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Dealt to Ribbo [ Ac As 8s 5c ]
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** Dealing Flop ** [ 5s, Tc, Jd ]
Ribbo checks.
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Ellicious bets [$65].
Ribbo calls [$65].

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Can you explain this OOP raise with AA5x followed by a check-call(pot) on a 2-high flop. I am very confused by this line.
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Old 11-11-2005, 07:54 PM
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Default Re: But I have the button! I have to bet the flop!

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Dealt to Ribbo [ Ac As 8s 5c ]
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** Dealing Flop ** [ 5s, Tc, Jd ]
Ribbo checks.
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Ellicious bets [$65].
Ribbo calls [$65].

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Can you explain this OOP raise with AA5x followed by a check-call(pot) on a 2-high flop. I am very confused by this line.

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Because i'm a better player than you? I get dealt double suited aces and you think simply because i'm out of position I shouldn't raise? Eh? That's a great flop for me, because it clearly should have missed the other players.
People love betting their button with nothing, because they fully expect to get a free card on the turn if someone calls. I will call if I think i'm ahead, and then if i think i'm still ahead on the turn will always bet into them if it means all-in .
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Old 11-11-2005, 07:55 PM
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Old 11-11-2005, 07:59 PM
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Default Re: But I have the button! I have to bet the flop!

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Dealt to Ribbo [ Ac As 8s 5c ]
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** Dealing Flop ** [ 5s, Tc, Jd ]
Ribbo checks.
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Ellicious bets [$65].
Ribbo calls [$65].

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Can you explain this OOP raise with AA5x followed by a check-call(pot) on a 2-high flop. I am very confused by this line.

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Because i'm a better player than you?

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Quite possibly, even probably. But that doesn't explain your line of thinking. If you don't care to share your line of thinking, then this thread was worthless. What a shocker.

EDIT: I see you have now gone back to expand upon your post above. Thank you.
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Old 11-11-2005, 08:01 PM
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Default Re: But I have the button! I have to bet the flop! *DELETED*

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Old 11-11-2005, 08:05 PM
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Default Re: But I have the button! I have to bet the flop!

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Dealt to Ribbo [ Ac As 8s 5c ]
...
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5s, Tc, Jd ]
Ribbo checks.
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Ellicious bets [$65].
Ribbo calls [$65].

[/ QUOTE ]

Can you explain this OOP raise with AA5x followed by a check-call(pot) on a 2-high flop. I am very confused by this line.

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Because i'm a better player than you?

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Quite possibly, even probably. But that doesn't explain your line of thinking. If you don't care to share your line of thinking, then this thread was worthless. What a shocker.

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If you think there is only one way of playing a certain hand then you need to stop playing. My actions depend on plenty of factors, like my notes on other players, what they think I have etc. If I just bet out all my hands that I think i'm ahead on then that would be far too obvious, likewise if I check raise, then it gives the opportunity for people to get away from their terrible hands where they would otherwise put the rest of their chips in on the turn.
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