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Old 09-28-2005, 04:10 PM
Vincent Lepore Vincent Lepore is offline
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Default Re: Interesting Hand from WPT Aruba

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I would turn those cards up in a heartbeat and show the table that you're nuts.

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That's gotta be a mistake.

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Old 09-28-2005, 04:12 PM
KramerTM KramerTM is offline
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Default Re: Interesting Hand from WPT Aruba

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I would turn those cards up in a heartbeat and show the table that you're nuts.

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That's gotta be a mistake.

Vince

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Not categorically. Depends on your game. My suggestion was in the context that I would plan on playing very tight/solid poker until my table breaks and hope to stack someone the next time I get a monster. Obviously, showing the cards here stymies future stealing opportunities, but again, it depends on your style.
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Old 09-28-2005, 04:15 PM
ZeeJustin ZeeJustin is offline
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Default Re: Interesting Hand from WPT Aruba

My fold equity in this hand doesn't have to be that high for me to make this play. The people I have talked to seem to both underestimate the amount I gain when I win the pot uncontested, and seem to vastly underestimate my chances of winning when called.
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Old 09-28-2005, 04:17 PM
KramerTM KramerTM is offline
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My fold equity in this hand doesn't have to be that high for this play to make. The people I have talked to seem to both underestimate the amount I gain when I win the pot uncontested, and seem to vastly underestimate my chances of winning when called.

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I think you vastly overestimate your chances of winning PF.
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Old 09-28-2005, 04:23 PM
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Default Re: Interesting Hand from WPT Aruba

Wow, indeed a very interesting hand.

Before I can comment, you said

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He is the most aggressive player at the table,

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He rarely calls anything on any street.

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What do you think then his initial call to the UTG+2 raise mean?

And about:

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Here are hands I can call the initial raise with and push expecting to have the best hand: Pairs QQ-99, AK, AQo, AKs, AQs and AJs

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Do you think MP3 would think that?
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Old 09-28-2005, 04:26 PM
ZeeJustin ZeeJustin is offline
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Default Re: Interesting Hand from WPT Aruba

Very good questions Sirio.

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What do you think then his initial call to the UTG+2 raise mean?


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After he calls 150, I would put his range of hands at 88-22, any suited connector except for AKs and 32s, any suited one gap other than 42s, Axs (except for AKs and probably not AQs), just about any broadway hand, suited or otherwise, and a few unsuited connector hands.

As for your second question, I don't think it's possible for him to call without the chance of me having TT or AQo crossing his mind. He's not an idiot. He may think JJ and QQ are out of the question, but probably not.
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Old 09-28-2005, 04:29 PM
SossMan SossMan is offline
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Default Re: Interesting Hand from WPT Aruba

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Very good questions Sirio.

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What do you think then his initial call to the UTG+2 raise mean?


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After he calls 150, I would put his range of hands at 88-22, any suited connector except for AKs and 32s, any suited one gap other than 42s, Axs (except for AKs and probably not AQs), just about any broadway hand, suited or otherwise, and a few unsuited connector hands.

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and after his raise, what hands do you eliminate from that range?

Do you agree w/ my 55-60% total FE guesstimate? (including the SB and MP1)
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Old 09-28-2005, 04:34 PM
dasein dasein is offline
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My problem with this hand is that you consider 35 to be middle aged and 45 to be old.
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Old 09-28-2005, 04:46 PM
captZEEbo1 captZEEbo1 is offline
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what kind of hand are you representing here with this play?
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Old 09-28-2005, 04:48 PM
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what kind of hand are you representing here with this play?

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I'd say 77-99 or AJs-AQs. But let's see what Justin says.
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