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Old 09-09-2004, 11:07 AM
AceSquared AceSquared is offline
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Ok Ill set up the hand and see what you guys think.

Its 2$/4$ NL at the local B&M. I get dealt in the BB Ac Ah. Folded to MP who raises to 20$ (100$ish stack) folded to me and I smooth call ($350 stack). flop is Kh Qh Jh. I bet 45$ into the 42$ pot. He immediately goes all-in for his last 55$, AND flips over his cards showing me Qs Jc. (He thought I pushed or he made a mistake, unsure right now) So its 50$ to me and I KNOW im behind right now. What do you do? Ill post what I actually did later.
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Old 09-09-2004, 11:19 AM
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Default Re: Interesting hand for discussion

what's interesting about it? it's pure math. there's not even any poker involved. you're a favorite to win the hand.
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Old 09-09-2004, 11:21 AM
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Default Re: Interesting hand for discussion

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Ok Ill set up the hand and see what you guys think.

Its 2$/4$ NL at the local B&M. I get dealt in the BB Ac Ah. Folded to MP who raises to 20$ (100$ish stack) folded to me and I smooth call ($350 stack). flop is Kh Qh Jh. I bet 45$ into the 42$ pot. He immediately goes all-in for his last 55$, AND flips over his cards showing me Qs Jc. (He thought I pushed or he made a mistake, unsure right now) So its 50$ to me and I KNOW im behind right now. What do you do? Ill post what I actually did later.

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You call, you are the favorite on the flop.

AA = 58.3
QJ = 41.7

Any ace, king, ten, or heart would give you the lead. You've got 17 outs.
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Old 09-09-2004, 11:22 AM
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Old 09-09-2004, 12:32 PM
Ionphore Ionphore is offline
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If there was no money in the pot and he bet 50 dollars and you can see his hand like you can you would call...

Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing Kh Qh Jh
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ac Ah 574 57.98 410 41.41 6 0.61 0.583
Qs Jc 410 41.41 574 57.98 6 0.61 0.417

As is you are getting almost 3-1 on your money. Autocall...
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Old 09-09-2004, 12:35 PM
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Default Re: Interesting hand for discussion

Interesting sure is in the eye of the beholder [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

This should also be small stakes.
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Old 09-09-2004, 12:53 PM
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I found it interesting because the person who went allin with 2pair actually was quite upset when I called. I ended up catching a 4th heart to take the pot and he steamed away from the table. What was better is the fact the rest of the table started to play really weak, I guess it all worked out.
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Old 09-09-2004, 03:53 PM
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It's an easy call, as several people have pointed out.

Unless, of course, you were playing at Foxwoods or a casino with similar rules. There, you call the floor and have his hand disqualified.
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Old 09-09-2004, 07:00 PM
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Ive seen this before.

Foxwoods act 1 tourney. I have 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] in the big blind. One player in middle position min raises to 200, everyone folded to me who calls. (We both had around 1000 in chips, this is third round).

Flop comes 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. I check and he pushes all in another 800 or so, and flips up 33. He says "I know that flop didnt help you, Im just making sure you dont try to draw to your flush or straight". I laughed and said "well your right, Im on a draw, and actually Im a huge favorite to win the hand". I call and ironically hit a 3 to win the hand.

The player calls me an idiot in front of everyone at the table, surprisingly 2 or so agree with him, saying im a maniac who plays when he knows hes behind. I tried explaining how many outs I had, but they just kept saying "He had a PAIR, you had NOTHING, why would you call an all in?".

Funniest part about the whole thing is that if I had just a 5 or something I would have been so far ahead. First time I had ever seen anything like that.

Back to you, yes, you were right to call, although im sure you wish you were a higher favorite.
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Old 09-09-2004, 07:35 PM
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Default Re: Interesting hand for discussion

He opened the hand up before you called? In the tournaments I've played in, they'd kill his hand...
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