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Old 12-13-2005, 10:56 AM
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Default Re: What do you \"deserve\" as far as comps?

I think if a patron sits in a chair for more than 5 or 6 hours, and pays you money in rake, then you should feed the guy. It is not like you have to pay him overtime, and he doesn't get paid coffee breaks, so give the guy a good meal. He might stay and play longer.

The real problem is all comps are not equal. Some places have a "use it or lose it" comp system. You play a long session, build up a big comp, but after all that time you don't want to spend a bunch of time eating, you want to get out of there. You grab a snack, and Poof!, big comp is gone. Next time you come for a short while, are really hungry, but you can only get a small comp.

Comps that you can build and retain are a big plus. Maybe a guy will only eat a hot dog or two, but keep building his comps. Then he can take the wife out to eat for a big fancy meal with the built up comps, and she isn't so upset about all the time he spends playing poker.

Some places have restricted comps. You can only use them for food, or only at the snack bar or deli where the crap food is served. How many greasy snack bar hamburgers can you eat with a $40 comp? If you are going to comp somebody, then comp them. Why do you care if he spends it on food, or buys some smokes, or gets some golf balls from the gift shop?

So I guess, if you play a decent amount of time, you deserve a decent meal. But the player should have the comp for a decent meal's value, and his choice of what to do with it. Save it, eat it, blow it, use half of it, give it away -- it is the player's comp, let him do with it what he wants.
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Old 12-13-2005, 12:55 PM
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Default Re: What do you \"deserve\" as far as comps?

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But seriously, folks. One of the reasons I love to play at Tunica are the comps. Getting a nice hotel room for $35 is sweet, free buffets rock and the free liquor really makes the poker good!

If the only factor being considered is Poker, it's Tunica , Baby. If you play limit Poker, like me Tunica Rocks, especially the Horseshoe.

I know the popular opinion is Vegas, Baby, but if you are married and are more interested in playing mid-limit poker than banging some crack whore in an alley, it's Tunica, Baby!

Haven't been to California, so no opinion about their poker.

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Agree 100%. I live in Austin, and lots of friends in Okla. City, and we travel annually to Tunica for a 4 day weekend. Great poker at Gold Strike and Horseshoe, free (good) buffets, free drinks, cheap rooms, good and cheap golf (try Mallard Pointe in Sardis, MS). Doesn't have the glitz factor of Vegas, but our budget for the trip is gas+about $50 for the room for the 3 nighs+golf+gambling. Greatness.
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Old 12-13-2005, 01:01 PM
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Default Re: What do you \"deserve\" as far as comps?

Like most of the others I don't "deserve" anything but it is always nice to get something. It doesn't even have to be straight money or food credit or anything like that. Even simple things like putting a few plates of sandwiches out every 6 hours is much appreciated. I don't need a $50 meal every time I play, just enough food to keep me from passing out after playing for a long time.
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Old 12-13-2005, 01:47 PM
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Default Re: What do you \"deserve\" as far as comps?

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(for the northeast, Tunica is apparently a different world)

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The SHOE offered to feed me just being on the list, hadn't played a hand.
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Old 12-13-2005, 04:35 PM
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Default Re: What do you \"deserve\" as far as comps?

Well, a table game like BJ comps you on 40% of your expected loss. The expected loss at a typical poker table is (30 hands per hour) x ($4 max rake) * (70% as an estimate of average rake over max rake) / 10 players = $8.40/hour/player. This formula would argue that the going rate for comps would be $3.35/hour.

It's been argued that poker is a more resource-intensive game for the casino than a table game is, but I'm not sure I agree. A 10-table room needs about 12 dealers, 2 cashiers, and 3 floorpeople to support 90 players, and taking in $840/hour.

A 10-table BJ pit with 50 players on average making an average bet size of $20, losing 2% to the house, playing 50 hands/hour needs 15 dealers, 1 pit boss, 2 supervisors, and 1 cashier and earns $1000/hour. A typical BJ players earns 1/2 their average bet per hour in comps, in this case, $10/hour.

BJ also requires more heavy surveillance than poker and a more vigilant staff. I would be surprised if a poker table and chairs costs more per-person than a BJ table that seats only 6-7.

Given this, one would argue that poker players should get $3.35/hour in comps. But for whatever reason, perhaps supply and demand right now, that is not the going rate for a player. The going rate seems to be $1/hour, and I prefer that a casino allows you to keep those comp dollars in a comp account that you can spend when you wish.
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Old 12-13-2005, 05:35 PM
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Default Re: What do you \"deserve\" as far as comps?

At one of the rooms that I play at from time to time, I am often the person that raleys a game to start. I am willing to start short handed and will keep playing short handed. This is generally over the graveyard shift.

So on those nights, where I get a game started and keep it going when more times than not it would have broke when it got 5 handed or 4 handed, I think I deserve a bit more than $1/hr on the player card that I would get regardless of what I was playing. I am basically acting as an unpaid prop. And 9 times out 10, I find that indeed the floor has added $15-$25 to my players card above and beyond what I got for playing.
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Old 12-13-2005, 06:10 PM
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Default Re: What do you \"deserve\" as far as comps?

Very interesting thread...

I believe the Taj has an ongoing comp balance, but I do not know if there's an expiration date on comps. I think the Trop had a 180 day expiration date. I usually play 3/6, 5/10 at the Taj and I have $300 in my comp balance. Don't know what to do with it yet, except for meals at the snack or noodle bar.
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Old 12-13-2005, 07:01 PM
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Default Re: What do you \"deserve\" as far as comps?

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(for the northeast, Tunica is apparently a different world)

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The SHOE offered to feed me just being on the list, hadn't played a hand.

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Agreed.

Saturday night I was there and was informed that if I get hungry just say something and they'd take care of me--I as well was waiting for a stud seat to come open and had not played a hand. The Horseshoe's buffet is the best in town.
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Old 12-13-2005, 07:12 PM
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cheap golf (try Mallard Pointe in Sardis, MS).

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MP is good, but try Cherokee Valley in Olive Branch, MS (at the Tennessee state line)--much better. Also, Plantation and Wedgewood both in Olive Branch are nice courses as well. They aren't as cheap as MP, but not bad either.

The Grand Casino's course is really nice for a links style course, but expensive if you can't get a comp for it.
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Old 12-13-2005, 07:16 PM
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Default Re: What do you \"deserve\" as far as comps?

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so I'm just curious what poker players think they deserve as far as comps.

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Like many others have stated, a meal for a few hours of play would be nice.

If you want me to return though, you better comp equal to or better than the poker room down the road. I'll follow the money and the comps (and the smoke free poker rooms).
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