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Old 11-22-2005, 02:29 PM
SoCalPat SoCalPat is offline
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Default Calling a raise with K2o

I'm in the cutoff and posting for my first hand in a 3/6 game at Paradise.

Six limpers to me, I check and the button raises. SB folds, everyone else calls.

There's $51 in the pot and I'm getting 17-1 to call. My hand is trash, but am I justified in calling to close the betting getting this great of a price?
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Old 11-22-2005, 02:30 PM
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Default Re: Calling a raise with K2o

Limit hold em is not about pre-flop odds.
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Old 11-22-2005, 02:32 PM
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Default Re: Calling a raise with K2o

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My hand is trash

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You answered your own question.
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Old 11-22-2005, 03:39 PM
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Default Re: Calling a raise with K2o

Of course you call. K2s is a monster. Wait what? It was offsuit? Never mind.
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Old 11-22-2005, 03:43 PM
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Default Re: Calling a raise with K2o

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I'm in the cutoff and posting for my first hand in a 3/6 game at Paradise.

Six limpers to me, I check and the button raises. SB folds, everyone else calls.

There's $51 in the pot and I'm getting 17-1 to call. My hand is trash, but am I justified in calling to close the betting getting this great of a price?

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In this situation, I'ld much rather call with a hand like 97o than K2o.
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Old 11-22-2005, 04:04 PM
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Default Re: Calling a raise with K2o

Seems pretty darn close getting 17:1.
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Old 11-22-2005, 04:10 PM
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Default Re: Calling a raise with K2o

Situations like this makes me clueless...
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Old 11-22-2005, 04:18 PM
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your 28:1 in flopping two pair or better. You can't assume a pair of kings is good cuz you have no kicker and you have no draws, Fold. If it was suited you could call since the flush draw comes 9:1. Just remember your only playing for a flush/ two pair etc...
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Old 11-22-2005, 04:28 PM
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Default Re: Calling a raise with K2o

Is AQ worthless on a KQ4 board? If not then K2 is certainly not worthless there either.
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Old 11-22-2005, 04:41 PM
The_Curtain The_Curtain is offline
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Default Re: Calling a raise with K2o

I would probably call, but that might not be the right decision. If you were not closing the action this would be a much easier decision to fold. Given the texture of the flop and the action you have to be willing to fold a pair of kings, which is difficult to do if you are getting a great price post flop.

Your pot equity is probably less than the 5.55%, but considering you will flop two pair 2% of the time, trips 1.4%, three flush with K 1.1% of the time, totaling 4.5%. I think that implied odds give you enough extra to call.

IMO it is close and probably has little EV either way.
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