Johnny Bax plays live too

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You're not going to hear the outcome here yet, he posted this like 20 minutes ago. If you try real hard you can find it on cardplayer.

The pot is not 50,000 btw.

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oops, i meant 116 BB's (5800 pot)... thanks for the cardplayer heads-up...

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Not sure if the amount of big bets has any relevance in this hand though, it isn't limit.

Given I have no idea who Johnny Bax is, I'd still stick to a 2000 bet and fold if he raises, anything smaller will get raised, and anything bigger is giving away more chips to a hand that has you smoked.

I don't mind a check on the end either, if even only for future knowledge.

[scott8]

And I also want to add that I have seen in deep stack big buy-in poker, people over limp bigger hands than 88-1010 in the early stages.

[Lloyd]

MLG not making a bet on the river is because it will only get called by hands he is behind. That's very different than the decision MLG has on the turn. The villain could certainly make the turn bet with hands that MLG is ahead of (like TT-88). It's one of those situations that a bet will only be called when you don't want to be called, so why make it.

[billyjex]

I'm posting blind here --

I think it's a check, or maybe a bet/fold. I just don't feel there's much value in a bet for you here -- I think he is limping w/ 87, 67, 97 kind of hands here and is 1) worried you have him beat and 2) he might put you on a busted draw and is inducing a bluff. Also for Johnny to bet in large field in a raised pot, I just have to think he is very strong here.

I suppose one hand that you have beat, that he might call a river bet here with, is 88-TT. The pot is pretty big already though, and I don't want to be faced w/ a river C/R (although this would mean you're beat probably 99.9% of the time.)

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You're not going to hear the outcome here yet, he posted this like 20 minutes ago. If you try real hard you can find it on cardplayer.

The pot is not 50,000 btw.

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oops, i meant 116 BB's (5800 pot)... thanks for the cardplayer heads-up...

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Not sure if the amount of big bets has any relevance in this hand though, it isn't limit.

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just my way of saying that this pot doesn't need a sweetener on the end... value-betting a pot of this size requires risking a significant % of your chips (if this pot was around 1000-1500, it wouldn't be nearly as dangerous)...

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You're not going to hear the outcome here yet, he posted this like 20 minutes ago. If you try real hard you can find it on cardplayer.

The pot is not 50,000 btw.

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oops, i meant 116 BB's (5800 pot)... thanks for the cardplayer heads-up...

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Not sure if the amount of big bets has any relevance in this hand though, it isn't limit.

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just my way of saying that this pot doesn't need a sweetener on the end... value-betting a pot of this size requires risking a significant % of your chips (if this pot was around 1000-1500, it wouldn't be nearly as dangerous)...

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I can agree with checking because someone might be slowplaying and we are real behind, and not many hands will call a bet that we have beat right now.

But I can't see the argument of missing a value bet simply because the pot is already large.

[SossMan]

Given the fact that you are posting this now, I think you should have checked behind.

[MLG]

well, that and our phone conversation.

[ansky451]

I think Bax can have a big draw possibly. I realize it's contradictory to say to call flop and turn, and not bet the river because Bax can't have a worse hand, but it doesn't change the fact that I can't see him getting called by a worse hand.

[Lloyd]

You think he'd lead out even with a big draw in a raised flop into like 5 people?