AQ under fire, ok to let go?

Online247 · #1 09-29-2005, 09:21 PM

Villian is tight he's been around at least 3 orbits and has only raised 2 hands. This is the first time he has 3-bet and he doesn't appear to be a tricky player. He also hasn't taken any bad beats so he's probably not steaming.

The pot is small enought to let go right?

Party Poker 2.00/4.00 Hold'em (10 handed) link

Preflop: Amateur is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
5 folds, MP3 calls, Amateur raises, 2 folds, BB 3-bets, 1 folds, Amateur calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Amateur calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Amateur bets, BB raises, Amateur folds.

Final Pot: 7.75 BB.

Guruman · #2 09-29-2005, 10:31 PM

given a legit pf three bet, I don't see many hands you're ahead of on the turn. Maybe a frisky QQ, TT or some other pp. Of course you tie AQ.

Against AA, KK, JJ, and AK you've got 4 outs and no odds.

yeah, I fold here.

gharp · #3 09-29-2005, 11:01 PM

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I don't think the pot's small enough to fold here. Call and river a T.

#4 09-29-2005, 11:38 PM

I would be making the choice between 3 betting and calling, and i think its fairly close.

I wouldnt fold here against any player.

#5 09-30-2005, 12:17 AM

Given your read, it's likely he has K-something. (What kind of hands did he raise previously?)

Still, it's close enough (You've no doubt got four Ts as clear outs, and the two remaining aces and three queens maybe as two more) to call and see the river. It is close though.

I don't even know if I fold to a river blank - this early in a session, I might be willing to pay a bet to see what he plays like this, if I think it might win (or save) me more later. But that's just me.

Aaron W. · #6 09-30-2005, 02:10 AM

Easy fold. Villain has AK very very often when he plays this way. Sometimes he'll have AA and occasionally you'll see KK. Once in a long long time, you'll fold the best hand. You don't have odds to draw to your straight and that's the only thing that can bail you out.

imported_CaseClosed326 · #7 09-30-2005, 02:52 AM

I see some people saying fold. I never fold here, is it that big a problem? We have top pair top kicker heads up. I don't know...

LoaferGee12 · #8 09-30-2005, 02:53 AM

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I would be making the choice between 3 betting and calling, and i think its fairly close.

I wouldnt fold here against any player.

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3-bet?
This is definitely between a call-down and a fold. 3-bet really does nothing here. I'm leaning towards fold simply because it looks like he has a monster and just wanted to get tricky. Maybe 1% of the time this is just an extremely odd bluff.

LoaferGee12 · #9 09-30-2005, 02:55 AM

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Given your read, it's likely he has K-something. (What kind of hands did he raise previously?)

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I think given his read, the only possible K-something hands are AK and KK. Both of these cream our hand.

istewart · #10 09-30-2005, 02:59 AM

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I see some people saying fold. I never fold here, is it that big a problem? We have top pair top kicker heads up. I don't know...

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Yes. He 3-bet preflop so that's around 88+, AJs+ and maybe KQs given our isolation-type preflop play. Once he check/raises the turn on an AKJ8 board he has you beat every single time -- leaving you drawing to 4 outs mostly.