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Old 08-31-2005, 11:11 PM
deucesevenoff deucesevenoff is offline
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Default 910s flops bottom two but sick board...

Villain in this hand was TAG (17/7.3/7) but that was only after 40 hands so take it for what it's worth. I'm particularly interested in the flop and turn action. Should I have raised or folded somewhere? I will post my (flawed [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]) reasoning on each street a bit later so as to not contaminate anything. Thanks in advance.

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, Hero calls, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP1 calls, Hero calls, CO calls, SB folds.

Turn: (4.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP1 folds, Hero calls, CO folds.

River: (6.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 6.50 BB
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Old 08-31-2005, 11:15 PM
gharp gharp is offline
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Default Re: 910s flops bottom two but sick board...

You gotta raise that flop.

The way it played out, I'm wondering what people think of a river bet (I kinda like the idea -- doesn't have to work that often...).
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Old 09-01-2005, 12:18 AM
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Default Re: 910s flops bottom two but sick board...

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The way it played out, I'm wondering what people think of a river bet (I kinda like the idea -- doesn't have to work that often...).

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Clarkmeister's Corollary.

I like it.
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Old 09-01-2005, 01:43 AM
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Default Re: 910s flops bottom two but sick board...

I am also raising the flop.

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Clarkmeister's Corollary.

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???
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Old 09-01-2005, 02:00 AM
Aaron W. Aaron W. is offline
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Default Re: 910s flops bottom two but sick board...

Flop call = bad move. Don't pretend this is a 'wait until the turn' situation. The pot is too small and your relative position too close.
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Old 09-01-2005, 10:48 AM
deucesevenoff deucesevenoff is offline
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Default Re: 910s flops bottom two but sick board...

Yeah this was kind of what I had suspected- the pot was too small for this play. By relative position you mean my position relative to the raiser correct?

(Note to self: STOP assuming I will always get sucked out on. Force people to pay for draws, even if the board is dangerous. Saving a bet by not raising on the flop with a marginal hand so I can "safely" fold when a scary turn card comes is NOT good poker).

As an aside, if the pot were substantially larger (say 14 or 15 sb) would it have been the correct move?
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Old 09-01-2005, 10:54 AM
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Default Re: 910s flops bottom two but sick board...

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Clarkmeister's Corollary.

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Clarkmeister's Theorem only applies when out of position.
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Old 09-01-2005, 10:55 AM
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Default Re: 910s flops bottom two but sick board...

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The way it played out, I'm wondering what people think of a river bet (I kinda like the idea -- doesn't have to work that often...).

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I don't think he ever folds here with a made straight on the board.
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