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Old 09-01-2005, 02:22 AM
Percussion Percussion is offline
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Default Pot odds question

Hero holds 5h6h, Villain holds AA. Villain raises from MP, and Hero calls on button along with two others.


flop comes 472
When can you ever call a pot sized bet?

Lets say pot is 10$. Villian bets 8$, and since your open ended straight draw is now getting better than 3-1.
With two cards to come, this is an EV+ call. Now, the villain will most definatley bet the turn. How can this be a profitable call if you miss the turn? He will surely bet 3/4 of the pot (he is TAG) giving you incorrect odds to call on the flop.
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Old 09-01-2005, 02:25 AM
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Default Re: Pot odds question

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Hero holds 5h6h, Villain holds AA. Villain raises from MP, and Hero calls on button along with two others.


flop comes 472
When can you ever call a pot sized bet?

Lets say pot is 10$. Villian bets 8$, and since your open ended straight draw is now getting better than 3-1.
With two cards to come, this is an EV+ call. Now, the villain will most definatley bet the turn. How can this be a profitable call if you miss the turn? He will surely bet 3/4 of the pot (he is TAG) giving you incorrect odds to call on the flop.

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How much money does he have in front of him? The only way you will ever have pot odds to make this call is if the implied odds are high enough.
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Old 09-01-2005, 02:29 AM
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Default Re: Pot odds question

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How much money does he have in front of him? The only way you will ever have pot odds to make this call is if the implied odds are high enough.

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Agreed, information is lacking.

Also not all draws are the same this one is one that will definately get payed off because its very hidden. If you call his bet in this spot he is not going to immediately put you on 5/6.
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Old 09-01-2005, 12:54 PM
KJL KJL is offline
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Default Re: Pot odds question

As the other posters said, in order to make this call, you need high implied odds.
In general, when you are on a draw, you can look at the pot odds in terms of the next card only, so on your OESD, don't think about the 2-1 odds to hit on the next 2 cards, think about the 5-1 odds to hit on the turn.
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