10/20 37s

jason_t · #1 12-19-2005, 04:20 AM

The pfr here is 16/10/.7 with wtsd = 28%. He seemed extremely weak/tight and that's why I took this line. I haven't done any math yet but my intuition is now telling me this might not be correct.

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Preflop: I am BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, MP1 raises, 1 fold, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, 1 fold, I call, UTG calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 players)
I bet, UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button folds.

Turn: (8.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
I bet, UTG calls, MP1 raises, CO folds, I call, UTG folds.

River: (13.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
I bet

wackjob · #2 12-19-2005, 04:27 AM

I'm definately 3-betting the turn and not waiting. I think you will get called by any pair, any [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], and you don't want to make it cheap for him to river a better flush.. he is not gonna fold.

SackUp · #3 12-19-2005, 05:09 AM

I agree with wackjob. I'm 3betting the turn. What was the reason for the call/donk line on the turn and river? You hoping for the overcall by utg? You obviously do not think you are behind if you are donking the river?

Are you calling a river raise?

I'd 3 bet the turn and not start to worry unless the turn is capped.

Looks like his QQ hit or he is raising KK or AA with his possible fd. Or JJ and 1010 are still possible. And AQ or KQ are also playing this way.

There is way too much out there not to 3 bet this turn.

Trix · #4 12-19-2005, 05:17 AM

Think you are better off 3betting the turn though your line rocks when he has AK, but probably not enough to make up for missed bets vs AQ/KQ.

I like the flop bet, you can´t expect this guy to bet it for you and even when he raise, it will probably not limit the field too much considering the flop is pretty actionish.

CardSharpCook · #5 12-19-2005, 05:21 AM

3bet the turn. K:clubs

r A:clubs: have to call that. I assume you didn't 3bet for fear of scarring out UTG+1? Well, 3bet for above reason.

BigEndian · #6 12-19-2005, 09:39 AM

Check-call the flop. On a board like this, why are you betting out asking to pay more to try to hit your hand?

On the turn, jam it.

- Jim

BigEndian · #7 12-19-2005, 09:40 AM

I agree, the flop is actionish. I would prefer to not be raised with only my flush outs being good.

- Jim

Joe Tall · #8 12-19-2005, 10:09 AM

Check/call this flop, you are risking paying through the nose on such a flop by betting out. Flop-texture, flop-texture, flop-texture people!

3-bet the turn, pound on dem morans!

SA125 · #9 12-19-2005, 11:14 AM

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Check/call this flop, you are risking paying through the nose on such a flop by betting out.

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It's a raised pot, Hero is the BB with 5 players to act. If he checks this board Joe, won't it almost surely come back to him bet/raised? And since he's not folding, doesn't calling 2 cold usually say "I have clubs"? If I'm not folding when it's likely to be raised, I'd much rather bet out and call 1 than 2 cold.

BigEndian · #10 12-19-2005, 11:19 AM

There's no reason for deception in this hand. Either you make the flush and drag the pot or you don't. You'll be getting the right odds. Trying to conceal that you have a flush draw on the off chance of maybe (very dubious) making another BB or two on the end is just getting greedy imo.

- Jim