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Old 12-15-2005, 12:28 PM
superleeds superleeds is offline
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The evidence is crystal clear that the administration saw 9/11 as an excuse to invade Iraq, not as a reason.

Pure semantics.

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How so. What evidence is their that Iraq or any of it's agencies have any links to 9/11. Or failing that show me how 'excuse' and 'reason' mean essentially the same thing.

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What evidence is there for that criticism of the administration’s handling of Iraq harms the morale of the troops?

because it plants the seed of doubt that, when the time comes to fund the war, that Congress may not take the appropriate steps to provide the means for victory.

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You mean like not supplying the numbers and equipment they need for the job. FYI, they already know.

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It's not Iraq that was the real threat to the US, but Iraq has always been a piece of the problem. Liberating Iraq from Saddam is not the end of the problem. It's just the first step.

I applaud Bush for taking a the first decisive step in making the world a better place for my grandson.

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Ok you can't make an omelette without breaking some eggs but if the cook sucks your grandson won't thank you for it.
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Old 12-15-2005, 12:44 PM
Kurn, son of Mogh Kurn, son of Mogh is offline
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Or failing that show me how 'excuse' and 'reason' mean essentially the same thing.

If you agree, it's a "reason." If you disagree, it's an "excuse."

Ok you can't make an omelette without breaking some eggs but if the cook sucks your grandson won't thank you for it.

I'll take that chance. Better than continuing to mollycoddle Islamist scum. (yes, I know Saddam was ostensibly secular)


What evidence is their that Iraq or any of it's agencies have any links to 9/11.

I'm sure they did everything in their power to prevent it. Yeah, right.
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Old 12-15-2005, 12:55 PM
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What evidence is there for that criticism of the administration’s handling of Iraq harms the morale of the troops?


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because it plants the seed of doubt that, when the time comes to fund the war, that Congress may not take the appropriate steps to provide the means for victory.

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What evidence is their that Iraq or any of it's agencies have any links to 9/11.


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I'm sure they did everything in their power to prevent it. Yeah, right.

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That is twice that Andy asked you to provide evidence for something and your answer was a total non sequitor. Why don't you just admit that there is no evidence for either of these propositions?
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Old 12-15-2005, 03:00 PM
Kurn, son of Mogh Kurn, son of Mogh is offline
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What evidence is there for that criticism of the administration’s handling of Iraq harms the morale of the troops?


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because it plants the seed of doubt that, when the time comes to fund the war, that Congress may not take the appropriate steps to provide the means for victory.

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What evidence is their that Iraq or any of it's agencies have any links to 9/11.


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I'm sure they did everything in their power to prevent it. Yeah, right.

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That is twice that Andy asked you to provide evidence for something and your answer was a total non sequitor. Why don't you just admit that there is no evidence for either of these propositions?

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On the first point, it's easy. I've spoken to a few returned soldiers who indicated that some people in their units were affected negatively. Is that good enough, or do you want notarized statements.

On the second point, I have no evidence, nor do I need any. Anyone who honestly believes that Iraqi officials would have taken even the smallest step against anyone connected with Al Qaeda is seriously delusional. Iraq didn't need to be directly involved with 9/11 to be viewed as being complicit.
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Old 12-15-2005, 12:58 PM
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Or failing that show me how 'excuse' and 'reason' mean essentially the same thing.

If you agree, it's a "reason." If you disagree, it's an "excuse."

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So they essentially mean the exact opposite of each other?

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Ok you can't make an omelette without breaking some eggs but if the cook sucks your grandson won't thank you for it.

I'll take that chance. Better than continuing to mollycoddle Islamist scum. (yes, I know Saddam was ostensibly secular)

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Is it OK to mollycoddle the Saudi Islamic Scum or is it just the ostensibly secular ones who don't do business the way the US want.

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What evidence is their that Iraq or any of it's agencies have any links to 9/11.

I'm sure they did everything in their power to prevent it. Yeah, right.

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Are you serious?
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Old 12-15-2005, 01:23 PM
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What evidence is their that Iraq or any of it's agencies have any links to 9/11.

I'm sure they did everything in their power to prevent it. Yeah, right.


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France didn't try to prevent 9-11 either...BOMB THEM!!!
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:48 PM
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What evidence is their that Iraq or any of it's agencies have any links to 9/11.

I'm sure they did everything in their power to prevent it. Yeah, right.


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France didn't try to prevent 9-11 either...BOMB THEM!!!

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We did that in Tripoli.
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Old 12-15-2005, 04:03 PM
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"France didn't try to prevent 9-11 either...BOMB THEM!!! "

Finally a good idea surfaces. It may just be easier to let the wonderful muslims they welcomed into their wonderful country to take care of this for us, though.
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