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#11
12-06-2005, 05:42 PM
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Re: Am I betting for value on the river
I vote bet/fold, He will clearly bluff you if you check to him on a 4spade board...
He will raise with everything he beats you with. He may call with crap. He may fold a T [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] ? He may call a spade and whop you but thats life. "I read as 3. If there are 4 this is a c/f if 3 a c/c if 2 a b/f. " Hehe that was such a hard thing to read. 
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#12
12-06-2005, 05:52 PM
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Re: Am I betting for value on the river
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I vote bet/fold, He will clearly bluff you if you check to him on a 4spade board... He will raise with everything he beats you with. He may call with crap. He may fold a T [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] ? He may call a spade and whop you but thats life. "I read as 3. If there are 4 this is a c/f if 3 a c/c if 2 a b/f. " Hehe that was such a hard thing to read. [/ QUOTE ] He called a four spade turn. Your chances of being ahead after the turn are slim, after he bets the river, they're virtually zero. He's not going to bluff the river. Especially at .5/1, i can't imagine him bluffing here. What are u hoping to get called by on the river here? You say he might fold a 10, which means that u expect him to call with what, a 9? That part seems very inconsistent. Basically, if there are 4 spades: C/F >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>> B/F > C/C
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#13
12-06-2005, 06:06 PM
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Re: Am I betting for value on the river
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He called a four spade turn. Your chances of being ahead after the turn are slim, after he bets the river, they're virtually zero. [/ QUOTE ] Absolutely agree. If villian was going to bluff this pot he was going to do it on the turn. I think we see a middle spade here at showdown a lot.
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#14
12-06-2005, 06:44 PM
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Re: Am I betting for value on the river
ah...a moron like this is capable of showing some trash but lets look at the hand further...
he may have a spade... the 10 just 2 paired the draw didnt come your play is -ev because his call is a winner a ton of the time, only his 9 holding/calling is paying you off... cdl
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#15
12-06-2005, 09:01 PM
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Re: Am I betting for value on the river
Yossalah, I am grunching you know?
After villain calls the turn, I think he has a spade, at least often enough to make a river bet -EV in this pot. Bet/Fold will not work here either, because he will probably call any spade up to the J, and not raising. If he does raise, your read says he could have air. I am strongly leaning towards c/f in this pot because it is small and there are bigger better pots to value bet this particular villain. Go get 'em!!
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