Pocket Jacks in SB facing a 3 bet. Call or fold?

[celiboy]

Hero is SB and has JJ

Mid position player raises, Button reraises, Hero ????????

This is .5/1 Full Ring. NO reads as I just sat down one hand ago

[Aaron_]

From Tight Games PF Recommendations, SSHE page 80:

"Reraise: AA-TT, AKs, and AK"

[LoaferGee12]

Cap it!

[Sykes]

Cap it, this is a position play.

Assuming no reads, I'd go to my default play which is playing super tight after a 3-bet. (that means fold)

In fact, even if I knew these players to be loose and wacky, even donks can pick up big hands, and playing a relatively weak pocket pair out of position spells -EV.

Wha?

Position as in terrible and unprofitable, yes

[celiboy]

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Assuming no reads, I'd go to my default play which is playing super tight after a 3-bet. (that means fold)

In fact, even if I knew these players to be loose and wacky, even donks can pick up big hands, and playing a relatively weak pocket pair out of position spells -EV.

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I agree with this line and I folded.

[ajm36]

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From Tight Games PF Recommendations, SSHE page 80:

"Reraise: AA-TT, AKs, and AK"

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A little further down on the same page it says:

Against a raise and re-raise:
Play:AA-QQ and AKs
Reraise:AA-QQ and AKs

Keeping that in mind. I call. If the flop comes up blank, I c/r and see what happens. This play probably bleeds money.

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This play probably bleeds money.

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lol, was that you just shatting on your own advice?

it does bleed money, we don't need to force ourselves into marginal situations. We get profitable plays smacking us in the face all the time, so to jump into sticky situations with c/r's and bluffs.....why begin a hand behind the 8-ball? Personally I like to enter hands in GOOD shape [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Weatherhead03]

Cap it. There are only three hands that are ahead of you right now.