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Old 12-29-2005, 06:56 PM
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Genetics is responsible for over 50% of a child's intellectual ability.

If these IQ studies are true, then it logically follows that on average white children will always be smarter than black children.
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Old 12-29-2005, 07:12 PM
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Genetics is responsible for over 50% of a child's intellectual ability.

If these IQ studies are true, then it logically follows that on average white children will always be smarter than black children.

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Are you joking with this post? What are your sources for any of these statements (78.2146% of statistics are made up on the spot)? Understanding, defining, or testing intelligence is a pretty complex subject on it's own which makes it difficult to link to genetic mechanisms. you really shouldn't make ridiculous statements like that without backup sources.

And, even if the first part was true, that doesn't mean the second part of your past must follow. For the 109432482756 time, there are serious problems with defining "race" ESPECIALLY at the genetic level. Very few alleles (especially the constellation of general ones that are probably neccessary for "intellectual ability") are localized to one "race" or another.

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Old 12-29-2005, 07:53 PM
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Genetics IS responsible for over 50% of a child's intellectual ability.

This IS fact, there have been numerous scientific studies done on this subject and I don't have the time to quote the sources, do the research on your own.
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Old 12-29-2005, 08:54 PM
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Genetics is responsible for over 50% of a child's intellectual ability.

If these IQ studies are true, then it logically follows that on average white children will always be smarter than black children.

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And asians smarter than whites.
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Old 12-30-2005, 12:56 AM
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If that is what the studies and tests show then it is undeniable.
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Old 12-30-2005, 01:17 AM
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If that is what the studies and tests show then it is undeniable.

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You put a little too much faith in social sciences.
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Old 12-30-2005, 02:16 AM
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Well let's see:

You have alot of indepdent research being performed and they all come to the same conclusions.

You have other people who have not done any research or tests and they try and refute the findings because of varied motivations.

I will let you choose.
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Old 12-30-2005, 12:11 PM
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Genetics IS responsible for over 50% of a child's intellectual ability.

This IS fact, there have been numerous scientific studies done on this subject and I don't have the time to quote the sources, do the research on your own.

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See, the funny thing is, I am a neuroscientist and none of the research I find corroborates your statement.
Don't hide behind the "I don't have time to quote the sources crap." If you are going to make statements as off-the-wall (not to mention wrong) as what you've been saying then you need to back it up with these mystery data. That's how scientific debate works.
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Old 12-30-2005, 12:12 PM
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You have alot of indepdent research being performed and they all come to the same conclusions.

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That we have yet to see.

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You have other people who have not done any research or tests and they try and refute the findings because of varied motivations.

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Like the motivation of science?
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Old 12-30-2005, 12:28 PM
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Well let's see:

You have alot of indepdent research being performed and they all come to the same conclusions.

You have other people who have not done any research or tests and they try and refute the findings because of varied motivations.

I will let you choose.

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It depends on the credibility of the study. The most common refutation to the "whites being smarter than blacks on average" is the presence of a third variable, often socio-economic status. There are more blacks per capita of lower SES than whites. Populations of low SES almost always show poorer IQ performance on average than those of high SES. The variable needs to be isolated.

One of the more amusing studies we covered two years ago was the one that showed that religious teens are more likely to smoke than non-religious teens. This probably had something to do with the fact that the study interviewed teens in the northeast/metropolitan area, and a number of teens from the southeast USA, where Jesus is more popular, and coincidentally, so is tobacco. These studies can often produce funny illusions like that.
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