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Old 08-20-2005, 12:28 PM
Paluka Paluka is offline
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Default Re: The Real Life Important Point about Being Moral or Ethical.

Andy Fox, David Sklanksy, and Mason Malmuth are all drowning. I can either save Andy, or I can save David and Mason...
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Old 08-20-2005, 12:47 PM
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Just let em all go
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Old 08-20-2005, 12:52 PM
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Wow, pair the board. I am very confused by your last sentence, but i instantly recognize it as genius. How often should Sklansky attempt to induce such arguments, to maximize his profits from such a play?

why is andy fox choosing from these competing moral arguments? why doesnt he balance between what is best for him and what is worst for everyone else. or what is worst for him, and will simultaneously ruin as many lives as possible. what meaning is there in anything he chooses. why doesnt fox just sit by the river all day, play his guitar, and sing christmas carols all day long. why does fox even exist? does fox even exist? what did fox get on the sat? what the *elll am i talking about? peace.
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Old 08-20-2005, 01:01 PM
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who cares how he spelt falooten and second falooten isn't in my dictionary
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Old 08-20-2005, 01:20 PM
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clearly, i care.

one of my profs always use to advise us not to use this type of language on exams.
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Old 08-20-2005, 01:46 PM
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Probably the wisest course of action.
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Old 08-20-2005, 03:35 PM
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Default Re: The Real Life Important Point about Being Moral or Ethical.

I think chess is a better metaphor.

Sometimes the best move or plan is obvious or explainably superior to others,

while other times it's more a matter of taste. Do you want to play for a static strength like pawn structure, or go for a dynamic strength such as piece dynamism? Both plans may be valid, and not demonstrably unequal.
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Old 08-20-2005, 04:50 PM
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man your nose is brown.

Sklansky thinks that morality should come from mathematical logic. If it makes sense logically to kill you he would do it and not even feel bad. By his "logic" if hitler had good intentions then he wasn't really evil.
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Old 08-20-2005, 07:05 PM
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Post from the heart? very nice.

Worth noting however that accepted Deductive methods vary:
(In particular note point 4 and respond if possible)

1.
Certainly within the liberal arts or within politics, rationalisations, and arguments from authority are commonplace if not the norm.
In mathematics reference to a respected yet senile author who claims that 2+2=1 (in anything other than modulo 3) does not necessarily carry the same weight, as a historians reference to historical 'fact'.

2. In the Lutheran dogmatic tradition Logic is used ministerialy. There is formal acknowledgment that the lines of reasoning my include 'apparent' contradictions. (Logic is used ministerially rather than magisterially.)

3. Ethics is one of those fuzzy areas generally treated with rationalizations, evidentially unsupported axioms, and ill defined terms. (eg. "Everyone agrees murder is wrong" - "What do you mean by murder?" "You sure about that?")

4. At a fundamental level in rational terms ethics depend on your understanding of free will. To suggest that ideas of Good and Evil and crime and punishment are meaningful at more than an experiential level, requires and acceptance of a non-deterministic world-model that is not well supported by current scientific consensus.
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Old 08-20-2005, 08:32 PM
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i agree if he had good intentions but it is clear to us that hitler didn't have good intentions [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
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