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krishanleong · #1 11-30-2005, 01:34 PM

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, Button raises, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (6 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG raises, Button calls, SB calls, Hero calls.

River: (14 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets, Button calls, SB folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 17 BB

Running bad. Just a quick checkup. I definitely misplayed this hand. Turn raiser is 80/15/1. Button is very loose agg preflop.

Krishan

TStoneMBD · #2 11-30-2005, 01:40 PM

i will never understand these donkbets

krishanleong · #3 11-30-2005, 01:45 PM

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I don't do them often. I think I have very good equity against the pfr. Relative position is neutral. I'd rather 1-3 bets go in than 0-2.

Check raising the flop is definitely standard and against more opponents I would do it. This guys opening range made me choose a different line.

Krishan

Lmn55d · #4 11-30-2005, 01:56 PM

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I don't have a problem with the donkbet if you don't think PFR will fire a continuation bet. You can only "protect" against one dude and he might have a hand not worth protecting against anyway. I think you mean you'd rather go 1-2 bets than 0-3 though because you shouldn't be bet/3betting the flop. I checkraise this most of the time but again I don't have a big problem if you think the guy is passive. I expect at least 2 cats to call this flop so having it get checked through would suck.

On the turn you have 6 outs against K4 and 9 outs against k3. You have 3 outs against K9 and 3 outs against a better King. However he could have a set. it's also possible he has a weaker king against which your kicker plays. I would call the turn. I'm not really sure what button is calling the river with but I don't like it. I think you can probably fold the river. I think there's a decent chance button was waiting for the turn to raise AK/KQ but got scared when UTG raised. That or he sucks and can't fold TT-QQ or A9.

TStoneMBD · #5 11-30-2005, 02:13 PM

if you think the preflop raiser is checking this flop alot then i definitely agree with the donkbet. i just really dont find opponents who check these boards though.

krishanleong · #6 11-30-2005, 02:15 PM

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if you think the preflop raiser is checking this flop alot then i definitely agree with the donkbet. i just really dont find opponents who check these boards though.

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This guy would check this board maybe 30%. My hand is pretty resilient though, check raising might still be the best option.

Krishan

NLSoldier · #7 11-30-2005, 02:19 PM

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i will never understand these donkbets

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If it was K83 would you like a donkbet?

TStoneMBD · #8 11-30-2005, 02:41 PM

you just blew my mind

MAxx · #9 11-30-2005, 02:48 PM

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you just blew my mind

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I think NL is saying the board would not have the gutters. I think I'd still cr the flop.

Lost Wages · #10 11-30-2005, 01:41 PM

I would checkraise the flop here. Betting makes it correct for anyone with a gutshot or 2nd/3rd pair to call. I think that you can throw your hand away on the turn.

Lost Wages