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#11
12-12-2005, 03:07 AM
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Re: insta fold with overpair 25/50
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what if villain shows a better hand? do you still think its a bad play ? [/ QUOTE ] It sounds like he is currently playing in a manner that you know how to exploit. Showing this laydown is only going to cause him to play more correctly against you. 
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#12
12-12-2005, 03:10 AM
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Re: insta fold with overpair 25/50
doubt it.
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#13
12-12-2005, 03:20 AM
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Re: insta fold with overpair 25/50
I'm confused.
This guy currently isn't bluffing enough. Showing him a huge fold will probably increase his bluffing frequency. If he is playing closer to optimal with his bluffing then we don't make as much money. Which part of this are you disagreeing with?
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#14
12-12-2005, 03:25 AM
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Re: insta fold with overpair 25/50
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Showing him a huge fold will probably increase his bluffing frequency. [/ QUOTE ] he wont bluff no matter what. ever.
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#15
12-12-2005, 03:26 AM
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Re: insta fold with overpair 25/50
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[ QUOTE ] Showing him a huge fold will probably increase his bluffing frequency. [/ QUOTE ] he wont bluff no matter what. ever. [/ QUOTE ] care to explain?
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#16
12-12-2005, 03:29 AM
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Re: insta fold with overpair 25/50
tight player, playing straightforward, doubled up from a 50 BB stack. seems like hes using short stack strategy? without the getting up part
doesnt seem like he'll ever bluff big
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#17
12-12-2005, 06:52 AM
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Re: insta fold with overpair 25/50
i don't play this high, but i don't see how you could possibly call a min-raise and then check/fold a pretty ideal flop for QQ. either fold to the min-raise, or bet the flop and then play poker.
and i agree with what everyone has said about showing being bad for image here.
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#18
12-12-2005, 07:19 AM
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Re: insta fold with overpair 25/50
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i don't see how you could possibly call a min-raise and then check/fold a pretty ideal flop for QQ. either fold to the min-raise, or bet the flop and then play poker. [/ QUOTE ]this advice is spot on, unless you have a very nice read that his hand is only KK or AA based on his postflop bet. Why can't he have AK, anyways I like push/fold preflop here.
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#19
12-12-2005, 08:38 AM
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Re: insta fold with overpair 25/50
what are you trying to accomplish by showing this hand? just send a message, or are you trying to loosen him up. if im gonna show a hand i like to do it with a specific end in mind and im curious what your looking for with this show.
matty
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#20
12-12-2005, 11:04 AM
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Re: insta fold with overpair 25/50
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[ QUOTE ] i don't see how you could possibly call a min-raise and then check/fold a pretty ideal flop for QQ. either fold to the min-raise, or bet the flop and then play poker. [/ QUOTE ]this advice is spot on, unless you have a very nice read that his hand is only KK or AA based on his postflop bet. Why can't he have AK, anyways I like push/fold preflop here. [/ QUOTE ] Interesting; I think his advice, and yours, is dead wrong. I think he's saying that his read indicates AA/KK and not AK, so he's calling to set (or conceivably bluff when an Ace falls). Pushing pre-flop seems really, really bad. There's already a small relative chance he has something other than AA/KK (bayesian analysis notwithstanding), and in the event his read is off, pushing will ensure that he doesn't get action from a worse hand. True, he will probably force AK out, but again, I think the chances of AK are extremely small given his description of this player. Folding is viable, against someone inexperienced and super-tight, calling is OK, too, IMO.
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